end the fascism and new ls

[Seulgaist]

*sob* *sob*
It's only been a few fu-kin days and I cant stand not playing ><. Been playin nothing but GTA: Vice City. Good game, but come on. It's no FFXI. Guh...when this piece of crap computer starts working again, I've got a loooooot of catching up to do.

[Cedric-Archaon]

I HATE MAINTENANCE. REGKH RE:GFBVC grie3rfglvheqnrbje;a rh JBjbrfk:BVRSGKBVfrdV

[pheK]

Originally posted by Seulgaist
*sob* *sob*
It's only been a few fu-kin days and I cant stand not playing ><. Been playin nothing but GTA: Vice City. Good game, but come on. It's no FFXI. Guh...when this piece of crap computer starts working again, I've got a loooooot of catching up to do.

I was having PC troubles last week as well, im still trying to catch up.

[Lukin17]

Yah i saw drako yesterday he told me that the dsl in his area upgraded from copper wire to glass fiber so he couldnt access internet for 2 weeks. I dont hate him he was kewl with me he helped me out alot in my early lvls. I was in his bahamuts legion then his dragon knights and towards the end things were getting pretty crazy everyone in linkshell was bashing ng and a few times evil i didnt know y. I switched back and forth between evil neogundan and dk but i stopped going into dk cuz all u would hear is people bashing neogundaners and making manji signs. hehe. i still got my dk and ng ls in mog house i mostly use evil ls now. anyway glad all this bashing has stopped dont know y u people got all into it though.

[Seulgaist]

Originally posted by pheK


I was having PC troubles last week as well, im still trying to catch up.

What problems were they exactly?

[anavrin]

Originally posted by Lukin17
Yah i saw drako yesterday he told me that the dsl in his area upgraded from copper wire to glass fiber so he couldnt access internet for 2 weeks. I dont hate him he was kewl with me he helped me out alot in my early lvls. I was in his bahamuts legion then his dragon knights and towards the end things were getting pretty crazy everyone in linkshell was bashing ng and a few times evil i didnt know y. I switched back and forth between evil neogundan and dk but i stopped going into dk cuz all u would hear is people bashing neogundaners and making manji signs. hehe. i still got my dk and ng ls in mog house i mostly use evil ls now. anyway glad all this bashing has stopped dont know y u people got all into it though.

Maybe you and drako can start a new ls and start a hate group against inertiatic and ng. Funny how other characters on his account were accessed during those 2 weeks. Im glad youre so loyal to him, keep your DK pearl and those ideals, if you'd like.

Edit: Why would you even post something like this? Are you completely oblivious to Drako's impact on our server? You say youre his friend and then toss around what was said on DK, even laughing at it. You want to know why we got into it? Drako. Jeez, just as were trying to start over and forget about all that stupid shit you come and bring it back and defend Drako. I just don't understand your ignorance.

[Cedric-Archaon]

Yes, drako sure had trouble logging on the past weeks...

Funny how someone hated NG so adamantly and then went on it secretly with other characters. Stereotype of the day: German people are fucked up. /drako :dead:

[Reze]

Originally posted by anavrin


Maybe you and drako can start a new ls and start a hate group against inertiatic and ng.

Whoa Ana calm down, lol I understand perfectly why Lukin feels this way, and in a sense he really isn't defending Drako. I know Drako did help alot of people out in early levels, I mean who wouldn't give somebody credit for that. He sacrificed time to raise his level, it's a respectable thing to do. Now I'm not defending Drako here, but I'm gonna step up for Lukin before anything starts again. I mean Lukin even said he stopped going into DK, that's reason enough to not get angry at him. Just chill guys, everything's cool.

[anavrin]

it just fires me up to see a post like that... i make a post ending all the stupidity, and lukin comes and says drako is cool, and doesnt even acknowledge that dk is OVER.

i dont care what drako did for anyone. i dont freakin care. he is a psycho. what time was he sacrificing? he was on 24/7. everyone here knows how i feel about drako, and ill leave it at that.

[anavrin]

read it all again. you fail to see the fact that its over.
hence the purpose of this entire thread.

[Cedric-Archaon]

Lukin, do you know what a joke is, or humor at all for that matter? Wiener toucher, oh god no! It's a joke, when we were bored we would hit our <t> <pos> macros on everybody. And jew bashing, wow, not like were gonna go out and kill a jew, again, it's a joke. Don't take shit too seriously you retard.

[anavrin]

Well theres a lot that I could say, but this thread was created to keep the peace. Lukin, you have made your point, though it is completely irrelevant and nobody really cares what you have to say. In a thread created as a formal apology, trying to keep what happened in DK behind us, you come to incriminate, which shows that you just missed the whole point. You have proved to this entire forum that it is impossible to forgive and forget. Congratulations.

Once again, if you think Drako is "cool" then thats the same as condoning all the things he started. I am not one to judge you if you feel that way, though.

A message to mods: I dont want this thread closed because it stands for peace, so if Lukin decides to attack us again, please delete his posts.

A message to Lukin: read the posts again, starting on page 1, maybe you missed something.

[Cain]

Hmmmm. Drako is a touchy subject for everyone. Talkin about this always stirs up emotions and people react differently than others. Fact of the matter is though; Drako is the root of all that went wrong in the importer community. He was the first person to openly bash newbies, He hated them with a vengeance that could easily be mistaken for racism and in a way it was. This is someone cool? I will quote him, "NG is a kindergarten, and it’s a new asshole everyday." Those are his exact words. This is someone cool? He set the stage for a LS war that should never have happened. He promoted the hate, he infused the hate in many, and he does not regrets doing it. I have had many arguments with him over the matter but he even made accusations against me saying I didn’t care about NG at all and only cared for myself. He had a bazaar comment telling JP not to PT with NG or Evil members and from what I have been told Drako has as much love for Evil as he does for NG. Drako also started the "its disrespectful to speak English in front of jp." and even went as far claiming "it is against the rules of the game to speak English". This someone cool? He basically saying all JP are racists!! He basically saying Square is racist!! Sure he may have been nice to some people but his negative contributions to the import community far OUTWEIGH any little good he may have done. Yes he was cool when he started playing, but when the flood of new members came to NG, Drako showed his true colors.

He has caused some much trouble to this community I find it hard to believe that there are people who are "cool" with him cause he never did any wrong to them. There is one thing to say you don’t hate anyone and don’t bash anyone but saying you are cool with someone is on a different level. Many would perceive that as agreeing with what Drako did. Surely you must understand people would think that. But you mean to tell me that even he said nasty things about your friends and your group, you would still be "cool" with him because he didn’t do anything bad to you? The way I see it is like being cool with the KKK or the Nations of Islam when I have white and black friends. How would I look if I said I was cool with one of them? I believe the reaction is easy to imagine, so that’s why Anavrin reacted the he did.

Drako is a liar. He has no credibility. I can attest to that anytime seeing I always got in his face when he bashed NG or newbies in general. And now Anavrin and co. finally saw him for what he really is. He deceived them and is such a chicken that he cannot admit it. He led them on that he had someone who could have them move to the Shiva. This was all a lie, but he stuck to it and the DK members had no reason not to believe him. But things got foul when questionable actions arose. When Anavrin first announced the move, I asked Drako what was going on and who was moving. He said that no one was moving and that he didn’t know what Ana was talking about. At first I thought it was a situation where Anavrin decided on the move and didn’t talk to Drako about it yet. Soon after a date was set, Jan 30. So Anavrin and co. made preparations for the move all the way up to a little over one week before the move and Drako's "sudden disappearance". Monday the 20th was the first day of this so claimed 2 weeks of no Internet. Almost everyone on the server noticed Drako wasn’t around and felt it was strange and when I began to doubt the move. Don’t get me wrong, I was all for the move at the time. I was sick of the constant bashing and DK moving to Shiva would end everything. So I looked into it the situation.

[Cain]

By Wednesday the 22nd there is still no sign of Drako. For a guy who was on everyday for almost 18 hours people got suspicious. But in actuality, Drako was online Wednesday. Drako has 4 characters on his account at this time. They are Drako lv57, Kwanzaa lv1, Mohadip lv1, and Darkraver lv1. On Wednesday night EST, Darkraver was sighted on NG for several hours by several members even myself though I was the only person that knew it was Drako. I didn’t say anything, just observed. On Thursday the 23rd, I begin poking around and asking some people about the DK move and one person who is friendly with both NG and DK told me something very interesting. Before Drako's disappearance, Drako told this person that the move was all a prank and made up. So now I am wondering, who is being lied to here? The person that told me? Or the members of Dk that were moving? Doubts increased about the move and I was puzzled to why it would be a prank. I mentioned my doubts to several people and over the weekend Anavrin contacted me asking what I knew. What I knew was Drako conveniently disappears before the move. He tells someone that it was a prank. I then ask Anavrin if he and the other Dkers got some sort of confirmation regarding the move. No such confirmation. So then I ask how they knew they were really going to end up on Shiva. He didn’t know. He even spoke to a GM earlier that day. That GM said there is no way to move characters from server to server unless there is a world shift. But World shifts are to servers designated by square. So how are they able to go to Shiva the server of their choice? It’s not happening. Drako played all the DKers and now disappeared right before the move.

At this point Anavrin, sees the path Drako put DK on and took it upon himself to talk to all over DK members and got them to agree that what they were doing was wrong. The bashing ended. This "LS war" ended right there. Sure everyone can say that they were following Drako, but they have taken responsibility for what they did and apologized for it. Can Drako do the same? Nope. I tried with him many times but he stands by his "racist" attitude toward the other importers. So I ask again, this is someone cool?

He lied about the move and he lied about the 2 weeks with no Internet. If he had no Internet then how could he been on NG as Darkraver during that first week? And before he "returned" on Monday the 3rd, how did he get Darkraver to lv10 and Mohadip to lv3? Good questions huh? I would really like to know how he plays with no Internet ^^. So he comes back with this story about no Internet. Sure one can believe that but he can’t explain how his other characters where online during the 2-week span. He messes up his lie here. He even comes to me asking about my allegations about his character being on NG, but he messes up again. He asked me "What is this you mean by me having a mule on NG as a spy?". I never used the word mule or spy when I told people about this and the person who mentioned to him didn’t use those words either. So why did he use those words? Cause it was a mule and it was a spy. So he just proved it himself right there. Few hours later, Drako disappears and Darkraver appears on NG. I guess he thought I was dumb or something. I broken his pearl there and waited to see if he reacts to it. Sadly he didn’t say anything, but hours later a character Tyrant comes to me asking for entry into NG. For those who do not know, the Tyrant character appeared when Drako first started FFXI last summer. He was "drako's friend playing in his account" so they took turns. At that time I had no reason not to believe them, but while monitoring Drako's account in his "absence" the Tyrant character wasn’t there. Now all of a sudden Tyrant is back and on Drako's account and Kwanzaa and Mohadip are gone. Hmm such a coincidence in a matter of hours since I booted Darkraver from NG. Comes to me asks for a pearl, so I question him to see what he would say. He said that he is drako's friend again, and that he is starting up his character. I ask if this character is on Drako's account(which I already know) to see what he says. He says yes it is, so I say well unfortunately I cannot let you on because of Drako's actions. He then asks why but stops and says, "Oh wait drako typing now"...."Hey its me drako". (Insert silence from me here). Does Drako think I am a fool? After all the dealing with Mechromancer/Darkstar, I would expect people to think a little harder to get by me. So I kindly explain to "Drako" that due to all the trouble he caused he or any character on his account is not welcome on NG. Please go join another LS. He calls me stupid and then flames me in German. Good thing I recorded this flame ;p.

[Cain]

Drako has caused unbelievable trouble and damage to the import community on Ragnarok. Anyone associating with him will be viewed in a bad light. That’s just the facts. Anavrin and co. changed and apologized. I say on behalf of NG, we accept it and apologize for any bashing we have done to them. We can reconcile our problems, but Drako will not change. He continues his bashing, his lies and deceit. I want everyone here to ask himself or herself, is this someone cool? Do I really want to be cool with Drako? Given all the negative things he has done, do I still want to maintain he is cool? I think that question should be easy to answer. You may not hate or bash people, that’s not what people are telling you to do, but being "cool" with someone is perceived as condoning what that person does. Is Drako really that cool to risk being mistaken for agreeing with what he did and continues to do? I don’t want another LS war. Its stupid and childish like Drako. What Anavrin did was a stepping stone to amend for past actions. He should be commending for that. Not bashed for what went on before. The Dkers were hardliners against NG at one point but now we are very friendly with one another. Even the members that bashed me to death have become cool with me. That says a lot. Can all us importers try to be like that? Can we try to end the bickering between us? Drako is the problem. Not us. Therefore we should not be fighting amongst ourselves anymore. Can we please do this?