Gold Smithing 101?

[Haplo]

Er, those rings go for 3-10k on our server, basically however much the gem costs it how much the ring costs, and the whole mythril ring is a loss of money.

[Kosy]

Kastel~

Huh? Makes no sense. At your level, do rings. Mythril Rings + Stone. I believe you should be able to make your own gems (Level 2) quite regularly at your levels. You'll end up with a few gems (Level 1) which can be used to attempt at HQ Level 1 rings (e.g. Balance). Silver Rings are 1,250 gils each at Lower Jeuno. You can easily synth Mythril Rings yourself, since you're a THF and can farm/steal the mythril coins quite easily at your job level.

The rings go for roughly 15-25k on our server. Not sure about yours. If they don't sell enough to cut losses down for you, you should do what you yourself said we all should be doing. Synthing > Decomposition > Synthing > Decomposition, etc ... this should lower your costs somewhat while giving yourself some skill ups.

I'm surprised a lot of people who post here don't look at places like Mystery Tour and then check AH prices/NPC (Retail) before doing their skill path. Some notable items were missing, like Hiraishin, which gives sexcellent skillup to cost ratios, which is VERY important when crafting. Also, people don't consider opportunistic costs, like opting to make silver rings (2x silver ingots) when you could sell the silver ingots for 4k and buy almost 4 silver rings from NPC and synth with those instead ><;; You people need to stop being lazy and blame the JP high level crafters for your problems. Sigh ...

[Kastel]

You said it'spossible to skill up on melody earrings, but southern pearl on leviathan server is 60k... I have this suspicion that high level goldsmithers on leviathan are ruining the market so its hard for other potential goldsmithees to skill up -.-

picked up goldsmithing again @53 now and not sure what to do >< everything is a money waster :\

[Disturbed]

Originally posted by Sanguine
Spent 6 mil getting from 55 to 59 yesterday.

Did Gold hairpins and Gold Rings. Yup, 6 mil.

Nothing's sold back yet and i don't think I'll be getting my 6 mil back anytime soon.

400-420k per stack of gold ingot
24k per Gold Hairpin (cost is 34k)
72k per Gold Ring (Cost is 68k)

What level do I start making money again? Oh that's right, never.

the price of power levelling~~

[l)@RK-l)EVIL]

Originally posted by Sanguine
1 million enough to skill you from 55 to 59. That may be true. But how long will it take for you to do it?

1 Stack of Ingots = 420k
So you use 2.5 stacks and there goes your 1 mil.
2.5 stacks = 15 combines.

Do you think you can get 4 skill ups in 15 combines? No.
So you have to wait until the shit sells back. Say it takes 3-4 days to sell your 15 gold rings (assuming no failures).

So every 3-4 days you might get 0.2-0.5 skill up depending on your luck. At the VERY VERY best, it would take you nearly a month (you do the maths) if you only use 1 mil as your capital.

I'll be happy if anyone can prove me wrong and give me a faster way besides using mass amounts of capital.

you can synth Melody Earring skill from 55-57 its depends is your server if its worthy or not

also
Hydro Claws skill from 55 - 59
fire crystal + Mythril Sheet 65k stack + Animal Glue 5k stack + Claws you can buy them from npc from sandoria or synth them (cost 5k~ to synth one)
it cost 90k total every 12 synth after you sell the hydro claw to npc maybe it will cost you less than 90k or a little more depends in your server

1 million = 120~150 synths if you use the hydro claws
you need only 4 lvs 55 to 59
i think 1 million is even more than enough

[Sanguine]

1 million enough to skill you from 55 to 59. That may be true. But how long will it take for you to do it?

1 Stack of Ingots = 420k
So you use 2.5 stacks and there goes your 1 mil.
2.5 stacks = 15 combines.

Do you think you can get 4 skill ups in 15 combines? No.
So you have to wait until the shit sells back. Say it takes 3-4 days to sell your 15 gold rings (assuming no failures).

So every 3-4 days you might get 0.2-0.5 skill up depending on your luck. At the VERY VERY best, it would take you nearly a month (you do the maths) if you only use 1 mil as your capital.

I'll be happy if anyone can prove me wrong and give me a faster way besides using mass amounts of capital.

[l)@RK-l)EVIL]

Originally posted by Sanguine

Nothing's sold back yet and i don't think I'll be getting my 6 mil back anytime soon.

1 mil is enough to skill u up from 55 to 59 >.>

[neosoul]

currently 58, and no matter what I do i will end up losing money from this point on. Unless i depend on HQing rocks, recently got 2 diamonds from 5 translucent rocks, the only reason why i havent given up this craft. And I seem to have better HQ with rocks on certain days/moon phases, contrary to what others post are the best days for HQ. But I'll leave that for your experimentation.

[Haplo]

Stack of gold ingots is like 300k on my server

[Sanguine]

Spent 6 mil getting from 55 to 59 yesterday.

Did Gold hairpins and Gold Rings. Yup, 6 mil.

Nothing's sold back yet and i don't think I'll be getting my 6 mil back anytime soon.

400-420k per stack of gold ingot
24k per Gold Hairpin (cost is 34k)
72k per Gold Ring (Cost is 68k)

What level do I start making money again? Oh that's right, never.

[PedaTeda]

:spin: :spin: :spin: :spin:

Lmao ^^

[Deodorant]

Haha

Damn *slaps self*

That should have read "a few k" or "a few thousand gil" /nod

[Sorath]

Kristin, I think what he meant was you saying you made a "few thousand K"

1000k = 1 million gil ^^

[Deodorant]

No it isn't. What is a few k per hour, when at lvl 50+ you can lose something like 10k per synth? If you want to take goldsmithing far you need another high source of income. Personally I farm an average of 50k/hr, or a possible 600-700k (depending on luck) per day if hunting NMs, and even then I can't afford to continue power lvling GS, it's just too expensive.

[PedaTeda]

hmm making a few thousand k in and hr... sounds good to me ... 1000k= 1million