E3 2010

[Ziero]

Re: E3 2010

Because we're talking about "what the Wii is about", not what audience Nintendo is serving.

The Wii is all about "casuals" and Nintendo is focusing on them this generation. They've openly said so many times.

If you want to talk about which audience is using the Wii more, talk about that. If you want to talk about which audience other publishers are dealing with, talk about that. But don't talk about what Nintendo is releasing, and then backtrack on that.

The "casual" audience is using the Wii more. Other publishers are focusing on "casuals" more. And Nintendo has made a console that is aimed at being accepted by the largest amount of people possible, aka "casuals". It's why they don't care about HD, HDDs, 3Dtv and all that right now, because they can make their console more cost effective without them and get it into more homes. Just because they're releasing a few games for long time fans doesn't change this stance. Why you take such great offense to me pointing this out I do not know, as it's not meant to be an insult. Nintendo was smart to release a cheaper, simpler console for more people to enjoy and not fight head to head, nose to nose with Sony and MS. Most people don't see the Wii as an alternative to a PS3 or Xbox (it's not), they see it as an addition, something they can pick up for a low price to play along side those two more expensive, more powerful consoles. Which has seemed like Nintendo's plan all along.

Warren Specter just showed off Epic Mickey.

I know he would make it a little Deus Ex-ish, but I like how he employed it here. I was worried the paintbrush thing would be too Okami-ish, but its totally not and thank goodness.

I'm slightly saddened it's not as grimdarkcreepy as the original promo-art initially insinuated it would be. Mechano-scorpion Country Bears, Wooden zombie Goofy and those 7 Dwarves capture crafts were freaky as hell.

[ShepardG]

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Yeah, me responding to all that crap in the begining not worth your time probably

(2) I don't see how this is a problem, its there really a need for an HD Will when people are going batshit crazy trying to push 3D down our throats?

Nintendo's really the only sensible person in the room this generation.

Sure there is! It’s natural progression, you had standard, then HD, then Motion Controll came out, Now 3d is hitting the market. It dosen’t matter if a company is copying another because that company came out with something that the public desired (IE. Motion control and HD) what matters is that the company recognizes it and adapts.

We want value, not expense.

your right, but I want 3d also, and I can afford to pay the expense for it, so don’t shit a brick when a guy is upset that a company he likes still hasn’t adapted to the current market (Nintendo’s lack of HD support).

See, the thing is that none of this complaints are that big of a deal, but they are not as inane and petulant as the crying about how Nintendo didn't go HD.

He said one thing about Nintendo not getting HD, and you offered a counter point, but you should have been able to answer your own question. Yes there is a need for HD from Nintendo when their customer base wants it. I would buy a HD Wii, I don’t play my Wii as is because I don’t like looking at non HD content anymore, atleast not when I have a choice in the matter. Which is what people want from Nintendo, the choice.

Really, get over HD. Its standard now, but its still not that impressive.Your eyes might bleed when you go back to standard definition, but I just don't give a shit either way. I go see a 3D movie, come home and use my old standard-definition TV and stream movies on my Wii or play game.

That’s fine for you to not give a shit, good job, unfortunately I do. I like watching things in HD and I sure as hell can tell a difference. Streaming Netflix’s on the Wii is so horrendous, even my wife couldn’t watch it.

I'm also not big into the "must buy two $60 games every fucking week" mentality. You want to waste your money? Fine by me, but I have no need to keep up with other gamers just to have something to talk about. Its a given that I will talk about games eventually, but I've been very happy being about four years behind everyone else.

Me neither, I just bought metal gear solid 4 for 20 bucks used. But where did this even come into the thread? I understand this is your opinion but it’s sort of like:
“I hate looking at pictures of dinosaurs when they color the T-rex’s red instead of brown, because I think that they should have been brown!”
If you think this relates to your point of people just want to waste their money on games, it does, but you’re the only one who’s bringing this point up. This thread was about E3

Tell that to the people that believe they need to throw all their money at big publishers to keep their favorite developer alive.

Again I think your taking your lack of money as a personal reason to call out the people who enjoy spending theirs, I mean, I worked pretty hard for my money, and I don’t buy 2 games a week, maybe 2 a month, but I just got a new tv, and I’m real damn happy with the money I spent on it. Could I have dontated it to others, yup, I sure could have but I’m fairly certain I earned that money and the right to sit on my couch with my wife and dog and watch my expensive ass television

Malacite, stop being a dumbass. There's no reason to announce a Wii HD; it would be pathetic if they did. Nintendo should just release a new console when they're damn good and ready, not some bullshit "Oh, it's a Wii but with slightly better graphics" money ploy. They'd just undercut themselves. About the farthest Nintendo would want to do in terms of Wii upgrades would be to give them an internal hard drive. Other than that, the Wii needs software improvements, not hardware.

I agree with them undercutting themselves, but it’s been almost 4 years now, HD is the next logical step and E3 would have been a great agenda to announce a next gen console from Nintendo, hell you’d see Sony and Microsoft shit their collective britches if something like that were to occur.

The PS360 needs improvements too, but I don't see anyone clamoring for them to release a new console.

I actually am clamoring a bit, PS3 got 3d from firmware updates, but It wasn’t designed from the start to handle that sort of content, and the 360 is probably never going to get that sort of content. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the next gen consoles announced by the 1st quarter of 2011. Yeah, 5-6 year turn around.

I didn't really even know Wiimotes had some memory storage til I saw I could copy a save of my Monster Hunter character to it. That's actually a rather clever solution. I actually hope that gets into the Move controller.

That is actually bad ass. I didn’t know that either.

Do you ever happen to have your own thoughts or do you just repeat memes you hear on the internet? Because that "Old content is old" argument was really working for you, too.

Umad?

Either way, those crying about there not being a Wii HD would technically be the "haters." See, "haters" are the people that disapprove of how someone else achieves success.

or someone who hates someone elses opinion on a subject.

Additionally, "Haters gonna hate" is something usually said to disregard a personal attack, playing it off like some comment hasn't affected you. I didn't make a personal attack, but something I said clearly resonated with you or you wouldn't have responded, so clearly what I say affects you.

If you're going to spout memes, you can at least do us a favor and know what they mean. I believe they have sites for that now.

” Oh, but you probably think OOT is the bestest game ever next to FFVII.”
Seemed kind of personal to me…

Oh and turns out the "same shit, different day" philosophy applies to 360 slim
E3 10: New Xbox, same old disc destroying problems- Destructoid. So MS has not only learned nothing these last few years, they now want you to jump around and force the issue. Poor Alan Wake disc, you do not deserve that fate.

Yeah that’s super fail, be nice if nobody put up with that crap and bought their console …

I'm so excited about Metal Gear, I need to get around to finishing the 4th one ><
Has Square Enix had their conference yet?

[Kailea]

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holy crap, new Kid Icarus game for N3DS!... wooo!

[jenova_9]

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MEW! Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 2!

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new challenger!!!

[Kailea]

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showing N3DS right now... oooooo ^.^ I want it

the 3D slider is nice, so if you dont want 3D you can turn it off

motion and giro sencors, and an analog stic as wel, very nice.

oh wow the new system can also take 3D pics.

[Balfree]

Re: E3 2010

want 14 infoooooz

[Malacite]

Re: E3 2010

The Reach trailer was phenomenal, and it makes me sad that Bungie is done and moving to Activision. It really looks and feels like what Halo should have been all along - Spartans kicking Alien ass, not a glorified remake of Marathon.


Nintendo's press conference is almost over, I woke up too late to catch it so I'll watch the outtakes at GT later. I did see some kind of seriously retarded Kirby knitting game or something, and from what I read in the comments new Zelda is fail.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Warren Specter just showed off Epic Mickey.

I know he would make it a little Deus Ex-ish, but I like how he employed it here. I was worried the paintbrush thing would be too Okami-ish, but its totally not and thank goodness.

[Feba]

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Yup, because the one new Zelda game(two for the console so far), one new Metroid game(again, second one on the console so far), and another attempt at an "M" rated are what Wiis are all about.

Because we're talking about "what the Wii is about", not what audience Nintendo is serving.

Oh wait.

Nintendo sidestepped the entire Console race by targeting 'non-gamers' with their gaming system, and that's exactly who they're currently catering to

If you want to talk about which audience is using the Wii more, talk about that. If you want to talk about which audience other publishers are dealing with, talk about that. But don't talk about what Nintendo is releasing, and then backtrack on that.

Also, as an exercise:
NES: 2 Zelda, 1 Metroid, 3 Mario*
SNES: 1 Zelda, 1 Metroid, 2 Mario
N64: 2 Zelda, 0 Metroid, 1 Mario
GCN: 2 Zelda**, 2 Metroid, 1 Mario
Wii: 1 Zelda, 2 Metroid, 3 Mario

*: SMB2 is of course technically Doki Doki Panic, but it evens out if you count Lost Levels. Either way works.
**: Counting TP as a GCN game, as it was designed to be one, and received upgrades for Wii, not a backport.

Also keep in mind the Wii is far from dead; Nintendo could EASILY increase that count of classic, core games before it goes out. And the Wii has access to all of the games before N64, PLUS Lost Levels which could be counted as an EXTRA Mario game brought to North America thanks to the Wii, to bring its count to 4. The only competitor to the Wii in terms of core games from Nintendo like this is the original NES. And that's including the infamous Zelda II.

The idea that Nintendo is straying from the hardcore market is absurd. They're expanding beyond it, but they're just as much putting out fine games as they ever have.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot to mention Metroid Prime Trilogy. I'm not counting ports and rereleases as new games, but it contains huge enhancements to the original GCN titles; and provides three games at an incredible value. It's almost the Orange Box of the Wii.

[Yellow Mage]

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. . . and that the numa numa kid is a reflection of our currently overfed yet under educated society.

Zigged. For great justice, natch.

[Ziero]

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Yeah, 'cause nothing says "Hey Grandma!" like Zelda, Metroid, and even more challenging Mario levels. And "Sin and Punishment"? That's fun for the whole family!

Yup, because the one new Zelda game(two for the console so far), one new Metroid game(again, second one on the console so far), and another attempt at an "M" rated are what Wiis are all about.

Hint: They're not.

yeah, Sin and Punishment is kind of a ballbuster, even for "hardcore" gamers.

Oh and turns out the "same shit, different day" philosophy applies to 360 slim

E3 10: New Xbox, same old disc destroying problems- Destructoid

So MS has not only learned nothing these last few years, they now want you to jump around and force the issue.

...wow, I knew it was bad but I didn't think it was *that* bad. Hell I've seen PS1s and 2s dropped from 3-4 feet up and the games barely even skipped. I love the one guy's reaction though, you could tell he knew things were going to go bad real fast.

Words and phrases have meanings, there is little excuse for using them poorly even if its slang. Saying something without understanding the meaning of it is really just a great way to get yourself in some shit down the road.

...dude, internet memes never have any meaning. It's just stupid stuff said for the distinct purpose of being stupid. Next thing you're gonna tell me is that bachelor frog is a way of life and that the numa numa kid is a reflection of our currently overfed yet under educated society.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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yeah, Sin and Punishment is kind of a ballbuster, even for "hardcore" gamers.

Oh and turns out the "same shit, different day" philosophy applies to 360 slim

E3 10: New Xbox, same old disc destroying problems- Destructoid

So MS has not only learned nothing these last few years, they now want you to jump around and force the issue.

Poor Alan Wake disc, you do not deserve that fate.

Taking stupid memes way too seriously ftl )=

Words and phrases have meanings, there is little excuse for using them poorly even if its slang. Saying something without understanding the meaning of it is really just a great way to get yourself in some shit down the road.

[Feba]

Re: E3 2010

Nintendo sidestepped the entire Console race by targeting 'non-gamers' with their gaming system, and that's exactly who they're currently catering to.

Yeah, 'cause nothing says "Hey Grandma!" like Zelda, Metroid, and even more challenging Mario levels. And "Sin and Punishment"? That's fun for the whole family!

[Ziero]

Re: E3 2010

...seriously?

Taking stupid memes way too seriously ftl )=

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: E3 2010

It's o.k. Mal, I wish the Wii had HD also.

Hater's gonna hate bro, hater's gonna hate

Do you ever happen to have your own thoughts or do you just repeat memes you hear on the internet? Because that "Old content is old" argument was really working for you, too.

Either way, those crying about there not being a Wii HD would technically be the "haters." See, "haters" are the people that disapprove of how someone else achieves success.

Additionally, "Haters gonna hate" is something usually said to disregard a personal attack, playing it off like some comment hasn't affected you. I didn't make a personal attack, but something I said clearly resonated with you or you wouldn't have responded, so clearly what I say affects you.

If you're going to spout memes, you can at least do us a favor and know what they mean. I believe they have sites for that now.

Oh look

Urban Dictionary: hater
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