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[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

SEC staffers watched porn as economy crashed - CNN.com

I bet they firewalled gaming sites, though.

Really, what the freaking crap.

[Durahansolo]

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I'm sorry, but if I was making 99,000-200,000, you think I'd be dumb enough to get caught looking at porn? I'd just hire two russian sex slaves to... Kayden Nguyen (PICTURE) "Sex Toy" Lawsuit: Steven Seagal Attacked Me - Crimesider - CBS News O WAIT!

[Yellow Mage]

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More than half of the workers made between $99,000 and $223,000. All the cases took place over the past five years.

. . . and we're only hearing about this just now?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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. . . and we're only hearing about this just now?

Well, we only heard about Goldman Sachs when it was convenient for the Democrats to vilify them, so I assume this is the Republican counter. Though to be fair both parties took campaign donations from Sachs, the majority being democrat on that and meanwhile this happens under both Bush and Obama's watch while majorities flipflopped in the house and senate.

Nobody thought, "Hey, maybe we should keep tabs on these SEC guys we set up to watch over Wall Street and what they're up to."

And now they want to regulate Wall Street further. Yeah, and I want a narcoleptic cab driver to take me from Point A to Point B. One that used to work for Goldman Sachs at that. Obama Administration actually has quite a few former Goldman Sachs employees.

[Feba]

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And now they want to regulate Wall Street further.

Because the best way to fix problems caused by corporations not having sufficient regulation is to not have sufficient regulation.


Except, you know, in reality.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Because the best way to fix problems caused by corporations not having sufficient regulation is to not have sufficient regulation.


Except, you know, in reality.

I don't believe you're familiar with reality.

It was government meddling that aided in the collapse of Wall Street. They are not the solution, they are part of the problem. Wall Street did feed the problem, but letting the fed have regulation is NOT the solution.

Has the government succeeded in:

Public Schools?
The United States Postal Service?
Medicare?
Medicaid?
Social Security?
Protecting our boarders?

No. Most of those are desperate for funding - we have no money for it.

So how is this time going to be the exception? Give me a good example how they won't fuck that up. HCR is already more expensive than projected and its not even rolling at full steam yet.

They're good at the military and, otherwise, spending our future away. And now they're looking to cut some military stuff eventually.

[Feba]

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No. Most of those are desperate for funding - we have no money for it.

I had a long reply typed up, but the point is: Actually, most of them work pretty damn well, and the military you so love isn't that good. If we defunded the military, we could accomplish so much more. The military and public schools also share an incredibly misguided notion-- that the more money you throw at it, the better it will be. There are other countries getting far more mileage out of far less capital.

[Losrase]

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"In fact, this attorney downloaded so much pornography to his government computer that he exhausted the available space on the computer hard drive and downloaded pornography to CDs or DVDs that he accumulated in boxes in his office," the inspector general's report said.

I bet his dominate arm looks like a body builder's arm on steroids and the other arm look like a elementry school girl's arm.

[Malacite]

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^^ this story made today's Caferty File over @ CNN

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I had a long reply typed up, but the point is: Actually, most of them work pretty damn well, and the military you so love isn't that good. If we defunded the military, we could accomplish so much more. The military and public schools also share an incredibly misguided notion-- that the more money you throw at it, the better it will be. There are other countries getting far more mileage out of far less capital.

Social Security is bankrupt.

Medicare is bankrupt and they're pulling funds from that to push it elsewhere in HCR.

The United Postal Service has gone public to say that they may cut out Saturdays to stay within budget. The alternative would be cutting jobs. I shouldn't have to tell you that.

Public School have teacher unions that are quite frankly a terror to the system, allowing halfassed teachers to keep their jobs and make it hard for the good teachers to get in. That's not a good thing for the students, good for private schools maybe, but not public ones.

And did you know one of the strongest obligations our federal government is to bolster the military and protect our boarders? They're not dealing with these core obligation. They look to defund the military and don't do a damn thing about the boarders.

Well, that's partially because illegals are potential voters Obama he passes his Amnesty bill. Bush mulled over the possibility, too. Obama loves the idea. even though it was just as sleazy when it was a Bush idea.

I don't trust most democrats or republicans for shit, but I know what our rights are and when they're being trampled all over. And its not fair to the people that busted their asses to become citizens, who have touched and improved our lives.

Financial "reform" is just going to protect the successful so Its going to be like unionized teachers in a way. Its going to be hard for the new faces on Wall Street to make any headway, wouldn't want anyone rocking the big boy's collective boats. They'll expand the power of the SEC, hire more people that want to download porn.

[Cheezeman3000]

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Two things to say:

1. I work in Medicare and deal with CMS (governmental Center for Medicare/caid Services) constantly.

2. The government is terrible at regulating our business and we are suffering from their inefficiencies. I just can't wait (sarcasm) until they run all of our healthcare.

[Feba]

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Social Security is bankrupt.

Medicare is bankrupt and they're pulling funds from that to push it elsewhere in HCR.

The United Postal Service has gone public to say that they may cut out Saturdays to stay within budget. The alternative would be cutting jobs. I shouldn't have to tell you that.

Yes, and these systems work excellently exceptt for budget. And the USPS budgetary problems are largely due to the entire method of human communication changing. Frankly it's amazing that email has taken this long to cut out Saturday mail. Think about how the USPS works: You put less than the price of a gumball on a piece of paper, and there's an incredibly high chance that it will go nearly anywhere within our borders, quickly and undamaged. Do you really think that a private carrier could provide similar services without charging ridiculous fees to ship outside major cities, to small homes and farms, and so on?

Public School have teacher unions that are quite frankly a terror to the system, allowing halfassed teachers to keep their jobs and make it hard for the good teachers to get in.

Yes, teachers unions are a problem. Other than that, the system works great for the most part. Funding isn't really an issue-- it's just that too much education funding is being misappropriated. Lots of districts are buying computers, projectors, laptops, and so on that don't really add much to the educational process, while others can't afford to buy the textbooks they need. But Public Schools aren't a federal organ anyway.

And did you know one of the strongest obligations our federal government is to bolster the military and protect our boarders? They're not dealing with these core obligation. They look to defund the military and don't do a damn thing about the boarders.

1- There's no A in borders.
2- The key obligation of the federal government is to protect the American people, yes. It is not to spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined. And really, like the public schools, that money isn't helping us as much as we're investing in it. We spend more on military forces than any other country, yet we can barely fight two wars in poor middle eastern countries. If we really need our military, we need a fighting military, not a military-industrial system which absorbs money but doesn't think to spend that on body armor before shiny new boats.
3- What would you have the government do about our borders? Create a 38th parallel to our south? You do realize that that would cost tons of money, without significant return, right? Yes, some illegal immigrants cause crimes. So do plenty of the ones that come in legally, and so do plenty of Americans. The main impact on Americans is migrant labor, and while that is a problem, building and maintaining a "secure" border will only cost American workers more money.

[Cometgreen]

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Because the best way to fix problems caused by corporations not having sufficient regulation is to not have sufficient regulation.

Which takes it for granted that the problem was merely that of insufficient regulation. I would say, instead of regulation vs deregulation, it's better to frame the issue in terms of incentives. Legislation, after all, will not necessarily stop people from getting what they want. What incentived all this reckless behavior? I see it as all coming back to government intervention.

Yes, and these systems work excellently exceptt for budget.

Oh, well of course they do a fantastic job if you don't consider costs. But cost is the whole point. We could establish a health care system in which any person diagnosed with an illness immediately gets top-of-the-line care. That would be excellent... except it would cost far more than people are willing to pay for it. You do, after all, immediately start criticizing the military and kitten's proposals as being far too costly, so costs must mean something to you.

Think about how the USPS works: You put less than the price of a gumball on a piece of paper, and there's an incredibly high chance that it will go nearly anywhere within our borders, quickly and undamaged. Do you really think that a private carrier could provide similar services without charging ridiculous fees to ship outside major cities, to small homes and farms, and so on?

These costs do not disappear because they are being carried out by the government. The USPS does not have a Philosopher's Stone, allowing it to pay union wages, trucks, gas, upkeep, etc. without consuming real goods. It merely shifts the costs around. Instead of charging "ridiculous fees" (which you cannot say would be so; we have no idea how much a private first class mail operator would charge per envelope, particularly in a fully free market), they tax people who may not even use the postal system to make up the difference. The cost to society is the same, and though the USPS has faced competitive pressure directly and indirectly, for all we know private first class mail could be even cheaper than a government stamp.

Other than that, the system works great for the most part.

It does not. Public education is pretty clearly a failure.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Which takes it for granted that the problem was merely that of insufficient regulation. I would say, instead of regulation vs deregulation, it's better to frame the issue in terms of incentives. Legislation, after all, will not necessarily stop people from getting what they want. What incentived all this reckless behavior? I see it as all coming back to government intervention.

FDR's New Deal came up with enough new government entities to fill two pages. Health Care Reform created enough to fill over a dozen.

Obama is creating jobs for the government. And these financial entities will be put in place not to look out for the little guy, but to secure big business. They keep spinning "too big to fail" but say nothing about how the little guy will be able to succeed. The other spin will be job creation, but its just government jobs. That's all that's been created so far.

When FDR wanted regulation for tires, he didn't call in the little guy - he called in Goodyear, Firestone and (I think it was) Michelin. He safeguarded them, everyone else went out of business. That's financial regulation for you. Rich get richer and small business gets fucked.

The whole mess we're in right now can be traced all the way back to 1995. The government wanted banks to be more loose with their loans so people could buy more homes. Then it happened again under Bush and things got even more loose in terms of handing out loans.

And no one on either side of the aisle did a thing to stop it. Now the government wants us to hand things over to them to ensure it doesn't happen again?

How interesting is it that the goverment can now call Toyota in to rake them over the coals, fine them and so on when the government owns GM and Chrysler. Notice how Toyota just starts having all these problems now and the government owns part of the American auto industry? This is totally impartial, is it not?

I wonder what other businesses will start having problems once Washington holds the reigns to Wall Street?

It does not. Public education is pretty clearly a failure.

Don't bother Feba with the facts, he's too busy doing base things like playing Grammar Nazi.

And that's what they want us to do. Turn against each other, demean each other, do anything but pay attention to what's actually going on. Public schools aren't going to get better, they don't want an informed electorate. They just need ones smart enough to chant campaign slogans and dumb enough to feel guilty for being white.

Could have sworn I didn't get a say in my race. I'm partly Cherokee, actually, so pardon me if I don't get into the racial guilt thing.

[Feba]

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Don't bother Feba with the facts, he's too busy doing base things like playing Grammar Nazi.

There's nothing at all grammar nazi about correcting someone when they spell something wrong multiple times.