Deadliest Warrior Season 2

[Losrase]

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I'm sure all armies are guilty of that some way or another though.

Very true.

[Pwnagraphic]

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I'm sure all armies are guilty of that some way or another though.

[Losrase]

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Ex-confederate turned criminal still doesn't qualify(to me) as a warrior.

I get what you're saying, but when you hear warrior, you picture someone like Attila the Hun, or Spartans, not gang members who murder innocent people trying to do their jobs or walking in to the wrong place at the wrong time.

I wouldnt use Attila the Hun as an example because he and his army did kill innocent people, but I know what you mean.

[Pwnagraphic]

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Ex-confederate turned criminal still doesn't qualify(to me) as a warrior.

I get what you're saying, but when you hear warrior, you picture someone like Attila the Hun, or Spartans, not gang members who murder innocent people trying to do their jobs or walking in to the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Losrase]

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They were criminals.. JJ gang were bank robbers. No territory was fought over..
Al Capone didn't need to fight for territory cause he was the most dominate gangster in Chicago.

Still say it was a waste of time.

I was referring to Alcapone's gang not JJ's gang. I misread what your posted and thought you were meant only Al Capone wasnt a warrior.

As said before, JJ was in the military. He and his gang new warfare from fighting with "The Law" of the places they robbed.

Al Capone knew warfare from fighting over territories. Just because you are the most dominate gangster in Chicago doesnt mean you will not take over some of other gang's territory or another gang will not attempt to take over some of your territory.

[Pwnagraphic]

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This is, by far, one of the worst television shows, ever.

LAB COATS AND EXCEL DO NOT MAKE A SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENT.

I always thought it was pretty corny that the Doc on the show always wore his scrubs and coat.

There's no official documentation proving they really existed - but then maybe that's what we're supposed to think

A whole martial art consisting of Ninja techniques, stories, and developed weapons aren't enough? Ninja were just chinese mercs.. Media and legend created them into something greater than they were.

[Malacite]

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LOL the premise is awesome, but some of it is a little over the top/questionable.


And all we have to go on Ninjas is Japanese Folklore, and the allegations of a few prominent clans (Fuma & Koga, which incidentally is why NIN's AF and Relic sets are named after them)


There's no official documentation proving they really existed - but then maybe that's what we're supposed to think


Also in season one they should be shot for using the term "Knight". The correct term is "Man/Men at arms". Knights were specifically nobility who rode on horseback in that super heavy armor carrying a lance, they were not the rank and file troops. I also call supreme BS on the Pirate winning that battle for a lot of reasons, chief among them skill, training, discipline and the blunderbuss being total crap.

Okay, so in 1 test they showed it pierced the armor. I forget if they even tested it on full plate or not (I don't think they did) and even then, they usually wore multiple layers of armor (Full plate on top of either leather, ring or chain maile) and on top of that, the thing was

#1) Highly inaccurate

#2) Had to be used at such close range the knight could just use his shield. There's no way in hell bits of broken glass fired out of a tiny cannon are going to go through a Kite Shield AND Plate Maile, not happening. Crossbow makes him ridiculously deadly at far superior ranges anyway so good luck ever getting that close to begin with. The only decent weapon the Pirate really had was that bomb, which I will concede was fairly nasty and would surely do our hero in. But again, good luck ever getting the stupid thing off.


The most absurd thing, by far, was in the "fight" video where the Knight cracks him in the arm while on horseback (I think he was on horseback at the time) with the Mace. They measured the force of that thing to be around 800 PSI. Like hell anyone would still be standing after that, his arm would be completely shattered and the pain unbearable.

[Ufgt]

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lol. Deadliest Warrior is just gamefaqs message board come to life.

[DakAttack]

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This is, by far, one of the worst television shows, ever.

LAB COATS AND EXCEL DO NOT MAKE A SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENT.

[Icemage]

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Ninjas, if they did exist, were mere peasants & farmers who modified whatever they could get their hands on and relied largely on gorilla tactics; More often than not a straight up fight with a trained, disciplined Samurai meant certain death.

Sorry, couldn't resist.


Icemage

[Pwnagraphic]

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Ninjas, if they did exist,

What do you mean?

[Malacite]

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Warrior: a man engaged or experienced in warfare; broadly : a person engaged in some struggle or conflict.

That's kind of a broad definition though.


Case in point, it's why I hated the very notion of Ninja vs Spartan - Ninjas, if they did exist, were mere peasants & farmers who modified whatever they could get their hands on and relied largely on gorilla tactics; More often than not a straight up fight with a trained, disciplined Samurai meant certain death.


The professional soldier (in this case one who's been trained to fight since he was 6 or 8) will almost always win over an Assassin because Soldiers' are trained to fight; Assassin's are trained to kill.



Back to the gangs thing, again, both of them were just street toughs but JJ (allegedly, anyway) and his group were ex-Confederate soldiers, which means they at least had some formal training. And as they proved in the show (for once) skill and accuracy can and should trump raw firepower in all but the most extreme cases (high explosives >.>)

[Pwnagraphic]

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If you using merriam-webster definition of "Warrior" then they are. The fact they fought over territory with other gangs makes them a warrior by definition.

Warrior: a man engaged or experienced in warfare; broadly : a person engaged in some struggle or conflict.

They were criminals.. JJ gang were bank robbers. No territory was fought over..
Al Capone didn't need to fight for territory cause he was the most dominate gangster in Chicago.

Still say it was a waste of time.

[Losrase]

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Regardless who won cause of what, they were not warriors.

Being a street savvy gang dealer doesn't classify you as a warrior. I think the JJ vs AC was total waste of time.

If you using merriam-webster definition of "Warrior" then they are. The fact they fought over territory with other gangs makes them a warrior by definition.

Warrior: a man engaged or experienced in warfare; broadly : a person engaged in some struggle or conflict.

[Pwnagraphic]

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Regardless who won cause of what, they were not warriors.

Being a street savvy gang dealer doesn't classify you as a warrior. I think the JJ vs AC was total waste of time.