Star Trek XI (2008) Christmas Day

[Akashimo]

Re: Star Trek XI (2008) Christmas Day

There's 2 episodes your mixing up. The Emergency Command Hologram was on a seperate episode where a alien entity was peeking into his dreams and he dreampt that he was a powerful captain of Voyager with the Photonic Beam or something like that. It was a pretty good episode, I guess for Voyager Standards.

Yea, but I was refering to two seperate things and episodes.
That day dream episode killed me of laughter for one thing, well two. Seven fighting over the doctor, and the other, holodeck, painting.
Doc also was a good leader(in skills, not command though) from the episode where the Hirogen took control of Voyager and he worked on freeing them.
When Seska took over Voyager and then the Promethius episode.
The race of Holograms was a result of the end of the Hirogen occupation of Voyager when they gave holodeck capabilities as an act of peace. Those were the holograms I was reffering to for a possible series/episode.

Because he's played by Andy Dick. He has his good moments (like that episode), but is a real annoying and bad actor otherwise.

Maybe true, but who's to say they can't reimage the Mark II for that reason?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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So, why not make his Mark II friend the actual Captian of the ship he's a part of to add to the experiement?

Because he's played by Andy Dick. He has his good moments (like that episode), but is a real annoying and bad actor otherwise.

[Omniblast]

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So in other words Omniblast a Smallville version of Star Trek for the next series to take off after that one ends? =P

Be interesting to see a series focused on the oppents of the Federation rather than be on the same "Federation Starship" Possibly maybe show what happened to the race of holograms that broke free after the incident with the Hirogen. Or what about make a series of the U.S.S. Prometheus (NX-59650) with an offical launch and its EMH MArk II is made captian =o Seeing how Doc was able to become the ECH why not actual captian?

Hey, why not? I'm tired of prequels. Sick of them in fact. Let's move on. Let's stop using Cannons and re-inventing the warp core. Let's have a Starfleet Academy. Then every year there will be a test. Between all the great Academy's. And then we'd have the Klingon Acadamey and Romulan Academy attack the Earth Federation! hahahaha.

There's 2 episodes your mixing up. The Emergency Command Hologram was on a seperate episode where a alien entity was peeking into his dreams and he dreampt that he was a powerful captain of Voyager with the Photonic Beam or something like that. It was a pretty good episode, I guess for Voyager Standards.

I didn't think Voyager was that bad. If you watch more of the episodes you manage to get a deeper feel into Voyager than TNG. More so than DS9.

One of my favorite Episodes from Voyager is Relativity. The concept of Time travel really screws everything up, and I don't know how "Re-integration" with former past or future selves works, but I loved the fact that we got to see 7 of 9 try to convince Janeway her humanity, and herself to believe in herself.

Always seeing yourself dying or yourself hurt seem to jog un-easiness in me. Perhaps it is a reminder of our own humanity? Of our own mortal flesh.

[Akashimo]

Re: Star Trek XI (2008) Christmas Day

The Doc was able to become a command hologram with full access codes though, which could be the same as captain in how you could twist it. http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/ECH
Actual captian statement was to making the ENM Mark II of the Promethius that since The Doc was able to get married and gain Voyager's command codes to be in command of the ship if the situation arises(alternate time line though after the events of end game conclueded.) So, why not make his Mark II friend the actual Captian of the ship he's a part of to add to the experiement?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Star Trek XI (2008) Christmas Day

Or what about make a series of the U.S.S. Prometheus (NX-59650) with an offical launch and its EMH Mark II is made captian =o Seeing how Doc was able to become the ECH why not actual captian?

When did any of that happen?

I do remember the Voyager episode where The Doctor was transmitted to the Alpha Quadrant and came upon the Prometheus and EMH Mark II. And then, the entire crew being out of commission, both EMH programs had to act take care of the Romulans threat against the Promethius on their own.

I don't remember The Doctor getting promoted to Captain, though. I just remember him getting his freedom as a recognized person and not just a hologram, in addition to getting married.

The Doctor was pretty much the whole reason I watched Voyager, he was one of the best Trek characters in the series. Definately the best doctor after McCoy.

[Akashimo]

Re: Star Trek XI (2008) Christmas Day

So in other words Omniblast a Smallville version of Star Trek for the next series to take off after that one ends? =P
Be interesting to see a series focused on the oppents of the Federation rather than be on the same "Federation Starship" Possibly maybe show what happened to the race of holograms that broke free after the incident with the Hirogen. Or what about make a series of the U.S.S. Prometheus (NX-59650) with an offical launch and its EMH MArk II is made captian =o Seeing how Doc was able to become the ECH why not actual captian?

[Jarre]

Re: Star Trek XI (2008) Christmas Day

Since I'm a TNG/DS9 kinda guy I don't know what to think about this movie.

I;m with you Raydeus, DS9 was my favourite followed by TNG, I found the story lines on those, especially DS9 and the Dominion war more enjoyable, I still reserve to say that Babylon five series 1-4 really set teh scene for a Science fiction soap/drama etc. Series 5 just shouldn't have happened likewise Enterprise sort of didn't work for me.

Will be intresting to see a new directors direction though and hope it impresses me like the New Bond film did.

the Shat gave his blessing to Matt Damon playing a younger Kirk.

You serious, no way any time someone mentions Matt damon it always remoinds me of Team America World police "Matt Damon" (in a stoners voice)

[Raydeus]

Re: Star Trek XI (2008) Christmas Day

He made Janeway seem like a nagging granny.

She was one.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Star Trek XI (2008) Christmas Day

Damon as Kirk? Hm. I usually don't like Damon outside of Kevin Smith flicks.

But I see him working out as Kirk for some reason.

[tdh]

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who knows? I kept saying the should try to do a DS9 movie next XD

I've been hoping for this for some time now. I really enjoyed DS9, but at the same time the end of the series kinda of tied it off. They tied that series up pretty well with the last episode.

If I recall correctly, the movie is supposed to be about Kirk and Spock and take place between thier days in Starfleet Academy and their assignment to the Enterprise.
So yeah, younger actors for Kirk and Spock in a prequel. Still with such iconic characters you know there will be some very tight casting so Shatner and Nimoy's take on the characters are preserved.

I thought this was gonna be a TV series, and teh Shat gave his blessing to Matt Damon playing a younger Kirk. Perhaps I just misread something, or it was more rumor mill.

I really enjoyed TNG DS9 and VOY. However when Enterprise came out, I couldn't bare to watch it. The three previous series all did 7+ years, and Enterprise couldn't even cut it to 5. Prequels usually don't work out really well. It really destorys and distorts the imagination of what happened previously on previous series'.

I really loved TGN & DS9, and I enjoyed some of the episodes of Voyager, but it wasn't my favorite. I tried to watch some Enterprise, but the damn theme song threw me off most of the time. I wanna watch them at some point for the simple fact that I've seen ALL the others. (DS9 was the reason I got my NetFlix account years ago! I followed up DS9 with all the Voyager episodes.)

I'm excited about this, but at the same point I'm scared now. It's not gonna be a TNG, and not DS9, dunno if I'll have the heart and/or stomach for it.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I loved Captian Sisko, he was the perfect in-between for Kirk and Picard.

"OK, we tried diplomacy, no more reasoning, I'm kicking thier asses now."

He made Janeway seem like a nagging granny.

Its a shame they killed off Gul Dukat, though, he had the best movie villian potential since Kahn and the Borg.

I'd really like to see an ST movie set in the Mirror Universe, there was this great one-shot comic book Marvel did ages ago that was a sequel to the original "Mirror, Mirror" episode, it told the story of what happened after Goatee Spock was returned to his universe. I even liked the DS9 Mirror episodes, I'm surprised TNG never had one.

[BurningPanther]

Re: Star Trek XI (2008) Christmas Day

All I know is, as the end of DS9, Benjamin Sisko moves on to a higher plane of existence with the Prophets, and hints at a return in the future.

It's time for Sisko to make a comeback.

[Omniblast]

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I really enjoyed TNG DS9 and VOY. However when Enterprise came out, I couldn't bare to watch it. The three previous series all did 7+ years, and Enterprise couldn't even cut it to 5. Prequels usually don't work out really well. It really destorys and distorts the imagination of what happened previously on previous series'.

I HAD a good idea for a series. "Starfleet Academy". Timeline would be after VOY. It would be like Naruto except with a little bit of Dawson's Creek thrown in. ROFL. Instead of school yard fights, they have holodeck shuttle fights. hahaha.

"NO FIRING PHASERS BETWEEN DECKS!"

[fastcart]

More Trek this year.

Since they missed the 2006 40th anniversary, they are releasing stuff this year (20th anniversary of TNG) direct to video.
Star Trek: World Enough and Time (2007) (V)
Star Trek: Of Gods and Men (2007) (V) Tim Russ (Tuvok) is the director.

[Effedup]

Re: Star Trek XI (2008) Christmas Day

That episode was "Time Squared"...and yes, pretty much anything that happens in the show involving time travel does introduce an alternate timeline. One could argue that the entire franchise takes place in an alternate timeline, since the Sphere-builders, through the Xindi, attack earth during Enterprise.

Honestly, I don't see what was so bad about Enterprise...I was a hater after I caught random episodes on t.v., but when I joined Blockbuster Online I got the whole series, and me, my bro, and my sister-in-law started watching it from the beginning. And you know what? It wasn't bad...I've seen much worse episodes on VOY (which I thought blew but whatever), and the 3rd and 4th seasons were pretty damn good. I can see how watching it in a weekly episodic format might hurt a little, seeing as how this version of Star Trek had the most "carryover" from episode to episode compared to TNG, DS9 and the rest. I actually like the humor in the early episodes of Enterprise...Star Trek had been really "serious" at that point, but a lot of people weren't really into that at the time, I guess.

Of course, they ruined it when they finally decided to cancel it...Season 4 was actually really good, until they threw that rushed ending on the series. I was so pissed off when I saw those final episodes...for that reason alone, I think they should give Trek some time off and let things simmer for a while. The higher-ups involved in the franchise have kinda ruined it over the later years.

If this new Trek movie actually materializes, I'll see it, because I see everything Trek related. But some of the rumors I've been hearing about it are making me wonder; Matt Damon as a young Kirk was one rumor I read somewhere that made me cringe.

Oh well, guess we'll find out?