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  • Lunaryn
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    Windows is a huge pain to set up if you just HAVE to get things just right. I can't count the number of times I've reinstalled Windows just because I couldn't think of any better way to get around a problem that had developed than just to start over. But if it just sorta working okay is fine, then Windows has a number of significant advantages that come from being so heavily entrenched that almost no one lacks some experience with it.

    GNU/Linux is far superior to Windows in terms of actually getting things working just how they ought to be in quite a lot of cases, but 'easy to use' distros are not good examples here as they are so busy second-guessing the user and trying to keep scary decisions out of their sight that they become a nasty mess when you try to really get into and take full control over your system.

    However, it's worth specific note wrt built systems that knowing exactly what hardware is in your system is a big help in getting good results customizing something like GNU/Linux, but is considerably less valuable on a platform like Windows where a lot of the elements are untouchable black boxes with few clear options to customize.

    For myself, I've gone so far down the control-freak road of wanting to control how my system works that I don't use distributions at all anymore, I use the Linux From Scratch books as a starting point and build my system from sources. It's hard to describe just how powerful this can be in the hands of someone with even a small-to-moderate amount of programming ability. I once actually patched my own glibc to support per-process alternate DNS resolver configurations back when I was part of OpenNIC. It was a simple patch that probably needed some security impact auditing before it could be used on any system of real import, but it was still a very neat thing to be able to do. On Windows, you can just specify a list of servers, and there's no way to, for instance, say "If the first server doesn't believe the domain exists, go ask the second server about it." The same is typically true of GNU, but since the sources are freely available and I was in the practice of building the glibc library in a system, applying my own patch so that each process on the system could have its own DNS servers was reduced from difficult-if-not-impossible to a small additional step in building the system.
    Last edited by Lunaryn; 12-10-2008, 02:33 PM.

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  • Neomage
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    Originally posted by Feba View Post
    Wasn't talking about Linux.

    Windows is a PITA to set up and configure.
    It takes like 5 minutes... Disable UAC, disable Windows Firewall, disable Aero if needed...

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  • Feba
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    Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
    In the real world Feba, where not everyone lives in their parents basement, Linux leaves a whole hell of a lot to be desired in the desktop arena.
    Wasn't talking about Linux.

    Windows is a PITA to set up and configure. If he didn't want to have to hassle with things, he would've gone with an OS that just works. Remember, we're talking about a home made computer, not one shipped by an OEM.

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  • Mhurron
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    Originally posted by Feba View Post
    Then why the hell is he using Windows?
    In the real world Feba, where not everyone lives in their parents basement, Linux leaves a whole hell of a lot to be desired in the desktop arena.

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  • Durahansolo
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    This topic makes me want to upgrade my computer and I've only had it about 9 months so its wayyyyy out of date

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  • Feba
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    Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
    I would assume that since he is so impressed with building his own he wanted an OS that didn't require hand holding to work.
    Then why the hell is he using Windows?

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  • Mhurron
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    Originally posted by Lunaryn View Post
    I presume x86_64 Linux and WINE won't meet your needs
    I would assume that since he is so impressed with building his own he wanted an OS that didn't require hand holding to work.

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  • Durahansolo
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    Originally posted by Firewind View Post
    When I first built my PC I accidentally hooked up the power and reset buttons the wrong way around. We had hours of fun trying to figure that one out. Then I nudged the reset button and nearly cried. X_X
    That's not worse than me not knowing about the 4 Prong Power Connector for P4. I thought the Motherboard was broken until I finally broke down and connected it.

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  • Kailea
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    Originally posted by Neomage View Post
    Alright, well I found an unofficial third-party driver for my current adapter that works with the 64-bit version of Vista(God damn, what is up with companies not wanting to make drivers for their own products? First Creative and now this?) But everything works!

    Anyway, with the new drivers I got the internet working finally(This is my first post from my new computer!) and I downloaded drivers for my graphics card and have that working now, and I'm amazed! I didn't realize how big a jump in graphics a 8500 to a 8800 was. Fallout 3 looks beautiful(or at least, as beautiful as a post-apocalyptic wasteland can be) and the extra RAM and CPU speed is doing wonders!
    what Creative device do you have? because I know they make Vista 64 drivers for their sound cards (most of them I think)

    and really Lunaryn, Vista is not bad, if you install it on a system capable of running it. 90% of the people that have "problems" with Vista are people that have it installed on a system with 512 or 1gb of ram (see this a few times working on Dells -.-)

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  • Neomage
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    Alright, well I found an unofficial third-party driver for my current adapter that works with the 64-bit version of Vista(God damn, what is up with companies not wanting to make drivers for their own products? First Creative and now this?) But everything works!

    Anyway, with the new drivers I got the internet working finally(This is my first post from my new computer!) and I downloaded drivers for my graphics card and have that working now, and I'm amazed! I didn't realize how big a jump in graphics a 8500 to a 8800 was. Fallout 3 looks beautiful(or at least, as beautiful as a post-apocalyptic wasteland can be) and the extra RAM and CPU speed is doing wonders!

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  • Lunaryn
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    Indeed, congratulations. I presume x86_64 Linux and WINE won't meet your needs, though, so I can't much help on the other issue, as I'm trying to steer well clear of Vista.

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  • TheGrandMom
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    Originally posted by Firewind View Post
    When I first built my PC I accidentally hooked up the power and reset buttons the wrong way around. We had hours of fun trying to figure that one out. Then I nudged the reset button and nearly cried. X_X
    LOL Awww thats a cute story! At least now, if someone you know has this issue, you can lend a helping hand and chuckle about it.

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  • Firewind
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    When I first built my PC I accidentally hooked up the power and reset buttons the wrong way around. We had hours of fun trying to figure that one out. Then I nudged the reset button and nearly cried. X_X

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  • little ninja
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    Grats now all you need is a picture of the bad boy or girl.

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  • TheGrandMom
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    Well {Congratulations!}!! There is nothing more awesome than building one, booting it up, and it purrs like a champ! Doesn't it feel good to know you can maintain your own system now without handing it over to someone and not seeing it for a couple of weeks.......or paying an assload of money to fix!? Seriously....great job Neo!

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