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**ahmad85** · 09-20-2003, 01:13 PM

help on your new pc

first of all, you should really thank about buying an emachine computer. I know that people think emachines are not the greatest, but they are absolutely wrong. Emachines doesn't even create its own parts, it buys the parts from manufactures that dell and other comp. companies buy them from. You can get a comp. with a 120 GB of harddrive, 512 MB of RAM, 2.2 GHz of processing speed, and alot of other cool features such as DVD and CD burners for only about $800 or less. You will not find a better deal anywhere else. That will pretty much handle the base of your computer. The computer comes with a good sound card already, trust me it is as good as you could hope for. Secondly, there is no reason for you to buy a video card for $263, especially not the 9700 radeon card. You can get some of the best video cards from newegg.com, such as the new Geforce FX 5600 and others which are better for less than $200.00. Trust me. My computer is an emachine with specs that aren't even as good as those which I have told you about and I can easily get over 4000 with the FFXI benchmark and I only have a Geforce TI4200. Think about what I said man, you'll thank me later.

**ahmad85** · 09-20-2003, 01:25 PM

help on your new pc

first of all, you should really thank about buying an emachine computer. I know that people think emachines are not the greatest, but they are absolutely wrong. Emachines doesn't even create its own parts, it buys the parts from manufactures that dell and other comp. companies buy them from. You can get a comp. with a 120 GB of harddrive, 512 MB of RAM, 2.2 GHz of processing speed, and alot of other cool features such as DVD and CD burners for only about $800 or less. You will not find a better deal anywhere else. That will pretty much handle the base of your computer. The computer comes with a good sound card already, trust me it is as good as you could hope for. Secondly, there is no reason for you to buy a video card for $263, especially not the 9700 radeon card. You can get some of the best video cards from newegg.com, such as the new Geforce FX 5600 and others which are better for less than $200.00. Trust me. My computer is an emachine with specs that aren't even as good as those which I have told you about and I can easily get over 4000 with the FFXI benchmark and I only have a Geforce TI4200. Think about what I said man, you'll thank me later.

**zyfe mural** · 09-20-2003, 02:28 PM

thanks man, i do appeciate it.

**zyfe mural** · 09-20-2003, 04:36 PM

Dont mean to double post or anything, but was it a deal or somethign you saw, and does e-machines have a site?

I basically want a nice comp, that scores 5000 on bench. I dont want premade mess, i dont want them putting software on there to just boost the price when i already have it. Please help!

**ahmad85** · 09-20-2003, 07:31 PM

yeah, the site is "e4me.com". The computer I described to you is not on sale or anything like that it just normally costs $749.00 plus tax. If you want it without the DVD burner, you can get it for only $649.00. I am telling you man, there is no better deal. I looked at dell and Alienware, and there is no way for you to get even a decent computer from either of them for less than $1000. I am talking about only 20 GB of harddrive there. Emachines comes with windows XP and other cool programs, but none of them really cost you any extra money. You can also get a Geforce FX5600, which will boost your benchmark score way above 5000, with the computer I told you about, for only about $120.00 from newegg.com. This should definitely keep you within your budget, and you'll get a very hot computer for the relatively little bit of money that you spent. I'm just trying to help people out yo. I've been in your situation before, and I wish I had someone to tell me about these places. Holla back man!

**Doppelganger** · 09-20-2003, 09:33 PM

never get a cd rom drive. it's useless. get a dvd rom drive and a dvd burner insead of the cd-r +cd drives. you'll than me.

just state the amount of ram and type, then you will get a quick answer for motherboard.

go to www. pricewatch.com if you want budget prices.

**aerobahn** · 09-20-2003, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by ahmad85
yeah, the site is "e4me.com". The computer I described to you is not on sale or anything like that it just normally costs $749.00 plus tax. If you want it without the DVD burner, you can get it for only $649.00. I am telling you man, there is no better deal. I looked at dell and Alienware, and there is no way for you to get even a decent computer from either of them for less than $1000. I am talking about only 20 GB of harddrive there. Emachines comes with windows XP and other cool programs, but none of them really cost you any extra money. You can also get a Geforce FX5600, which will boost your benchmark score way above 5000, with the computer I told you about, for only about $120.00 from newegg.com. This should definitely keep you within your budget, and you'll get a very hot computer for the relatively little bit of money that you spent. I'm just trying to help people out yo. I've been in your situation before, and I wish I had someone to tell me about these places. Holla back man!

Im not sure what to make of that post???? above 5000 with a GFX5600??? and an E-machine...YUCK! There is a better deal its called building it yourself. You cannot get over 5000 unless your cpu pushes around 2.6 to 2.8 most likely the latter. The 5600 is a bare minium, Buy a better card like a 9800pro. You can play half-life 2 plus doom3 beautifuly. Not to mention all the current games with AA and AF. You cannot on a gfx 5600 its been proven. Build your own its a much better deal. Need help PM me.
ill tell you what to buy and how to put it all together.

so what we learned today is

1)That there is no such thing as a better deal when you have to pay the middle man. (build it your self)

2)The GFX is not a good choice unless you have no other choice, you have no future with this card because it cannot play dx9.0 games.

3)e-machines are ugly.

4)listen to aerobahn.

5) if you dont ask doppleganger and he will tell you to..."listen to aerobahn" -doppelganger

**ganhosi** · 09-20-2003, 10:13 PM

Here is a system I just built 3 days ago.

I ordered all my parts from www.newegg.com (the best online store for computer parts PERIOD)

Amd 2500+ barton = $90.00
2 x 512 meg Crucial 3200 DDR = $180.00
IBM 120 gig hardrive with 8 meg cache = $107.00
Thermaltake XASER III V2420A ( SILVER ) w/420 psu = $198.00
Shuttle AN35N-Ultra 400 Motherboard dual channel = $69.00
Pioneer 120s slot load dvd-rom 16x = $39.99
Soundblaster Audigy ($29.00 from ebay)
CoolerMaster Aero 7 + CPU fan ($19.00 from ebay)
Ati Radeon 9500 Pro ($129.99 from CompUSA, SWEET CLEARANCE SALE)

Total = $860.00

I overclocked the AMD 2500+(1.8 gig) to AMD 3200+(2.2 gig) by switching the FSB from 166 to 200 and running stable with Shin Etsu thermal paste and Aero 7+.
I'm also running the memory at 400 mhz dual channel
cas setting at 2.5 2 2 7 with copper heat sinks.

FFXI benchmark = 6523
3dmark2001 = 13,544
3dmark2003 = 3,934

This system screams for under $900, if you have any questions on how to build it or overclock it, PM me. Good luck.

**ganhosi** · 09-20-2003, 10:30 PM

1)That there is no such thing as a better deal when you have to pay the middle man. (build it your self)

YES, do build it yourself, I agree 100%

The 5600 is a bare minium, Buy a better card like a 9800pro

NO, dont buy the 9800pro, it's WAY overpriced for FFXI which is a direct x 8 game. If you want a directx 9 card, go with a 9500 pro or 9700 pro, which is MORE then sufficient to play FFXI with everything turned on high, and directx 9 games for 2 years +.
You have to remeber that the video card companies are outpacing the gaming companies, it takes game companies over 2 years to make a game. Within that time Nvidia and ATI can produce up to 5 revisions or 2+ generations. Therefore you get cards that are way to powerful for their own good and way overpriced , Killing every game outhere.
I bought a Asus ti4600 for $350.00 a year ago, and now they are selling for $100.00 on ebay (sigh). I have yet to find a game that lags out my Ti4600. Ultimately the decision is up to you, good luck.

**replica** · 09-20-2003, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by ganhosi
if you have any questions on how to build it or overclock it, PM me. Good luck.

check your PMs when you get a chance

i have a fairly similar system..

**zyfe mural** · 09-20-2003, 11:37 PM

thank you, thank you!!! I really appreciate you guys suggestions, with your help, my comp is going to be pimp, and i didnt break $900 woot! Oh, ganhosi, where did you get that ram...and whats this overclocking?

**zyfe mural** · 09-20-2003, 11:43 PM

um, replica, there is no pm in there, you didnt put an underscore between my name did you?

**replica** · 09-21-2003, 12:08 AM

heh, no i was pming ganhosi about overclocking~

overclocking is one reason his system hit over 6k on the benchmark with those parts =]

**ahmad85** · 09-21-2003, 12:35 AM

how exactly does one go about overclocking?

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