How do you clock your processor?

[sHaDoW hEal2t]

i have an xp2200+ and was wondering how to clock my processor so it runs at a faster rate.

[Doppelganger]

there are two main ways. dl the tweaker(don't know the site, it works, but isn't the best), or manually reconfigure the cpu(comp geeks only, you shouldn't try it, but is the best way). the 22+ is good enough as it is for now, so don't try to mess with your comp unless you need to (you can overheat the cpu easily).

[Lech]

how to clock it? It's already at a set clock if you don't have an unlocked CPU or a nforce2. I wouldn't do it until you know the negative effects and have very good cooling, as in at least 50 CFM and a good heatsink, or a good HSF.

[ZeroRadius]

Here is something that I live by, Do not overclock a AMD processor. It has a huge amount of heat on it already anymore and it is not good, unless you have very good water cooling.

[Lech]

Imo, that's kinda harsh Zero...but I agree 100% by what you said. Overclocking WILL lower the life of your AMD, but chances are by the time your AMD dies, that kind of CPU will be obsolete. Keeping my CPU @ around 40 C for about a year and haven't noticed much difference.

[aerobahn]

You can over clock to your hearts content and it will last just as long as if you didn't.

But only if;

1. You can keep them running cool , about normal temps. (Athlons are ovens)

2. Adding voltage can help raise heat and lower your CPU life span. Try not to up the voltage 2 much. :D

But other than that. your golden

I had an Oc'ed cpu for Three years with no problems.
Currently

Running P4 3.6C with 1000 front side bus. Water cooled.
9800 pro@ 440/370

Pics for your enjoyment, bruce at "cool teknica" uses them to sell his water cooled pc's. :D

[Doppelganger]

with that set up you get about 8000 right? since i have only 2/5gh p4 and 533fsb, i can most likely get it to 2.7-2.8 with 666 fsb(i'de love to have that). then i could get an extra 600 on bench. it has crappy cooling though, and my room is at 79-95 farenhieght normally. not good place to oc, at least not during summer.

[aerobahn]

Yeah I get around 8100. I see more improvement via CPU increases than GPU.

Try some water cooling Dopple, with a high ambient temp it may not keep it COOLER but it will stay more consistent as you overclock it. OR if your rich get a TEC or Vapo chill.

[Doppelganger]

i have about $500 total to spend, want to get a new graphics card soon (fx5900 is too expensive, 9800 pro is a bit cheaper, but still too expensive if i get cooling), more ram (1024mb more its rd800 but it's good in duel channel, but i can get that as a birthday present, and maybe the graphics card for christmas), think that that is enough money, or will i have to spend more?

right now my 2.53gh p4 is running at 2.519, is that a problem for oc or is that normal?

[Lech]

I'm sure you can get a lot better, but don't compare yourself to an AMD which has its own unlocked boards. Ex. I can push my 2100+ to 2500 Mhz, 800 Mhz increase, but only due to good cooling.

I've heard the 2.5C's getting up to 3000Mhz with water cooling, easy. I do'nt buy intels so i have no idea. Things that play a part is GPU/ram overclocks, CPU speed, AGP speed (4x vs. 2x), etc. Btw... it doesn't matter how powerful your parts are separate, it depends on how well they work together. With an intel, you have it easier imo, since your ram speed and cpu fsb doesn't have to be in sync. If you are not scared of soldering, your board may have some voltage mods you could do to increase stability.

[aerobahn]

the 9800XT or 9900's are comming out this month jst wait for price drops :D

another pic for the masses

[Doppelganger]

how much does water cooling cost?

you have a tech specs page for 9800tx and 9900? it would be good if ati gets a new card to own nvidia (if that goes well in all aspects, i may become an ati caddy like you).

[aerobahn]

LoL im no ATI caddy.

ok let me get rid of some water cooling myths.

it can in SOME cases bring down your temps by 20 C degrees.
but thats not really what we want, we want Stable temps so when you overclock it only goes up 2-3C.

you need;

1.pump. -moves the water aound.

2.radiator- gets rid of the heat via fan.

3.water block CPU/GPU- what makes contact with the cpu.

4.tubing

5.water wetter, or any coolant
.

you could water cool your CPU,GPU,or both. you need the tubing and the waterblock(s).


this site here has a good cooling unit for cheep. not the best but a good start.

or if your rich go here and make one yourself. that will give you the best preformence.

[aerobahn]

they might name the 9900 (due this sept), the 9800XT.
From what i read its only minor changes, with higher clock speeds. It will own the 5900 in all benches, but Nvidia will have their next card soon as well. So its not a fair compairison. Nvidia makes good cards, I just dont like thier current batch of cards, and drivers.

[Doppelganger]

i don't have much money to spare on a comp, max of $600 i might be able to get, but i need to double my ram, get a better graphics card, and then maybe water cooling if my budget handles that. ill just get a super comp to build when i get out of college (6 years is a lot when talking about comps, but i might get a lap top in 2 years for when i go in).