Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

[Armando]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

Also, the statistical bonuses generated are decided by how you fight the monster. Use more magic and it gives magic bonuses, use physical attacks and get hp/str stuff, and so on.

It'd be a pretty unique and interesting system, and tie together a lot of what SE has been talking about.

Interesting but it could potentially suck. "Whoops, did something wrong with the fight, didn't get the augments I wanted. Now to wait 'til tomorrow so I can try it again =/" Or "Ugh, I want more MP on this piece of gear for my PLD but it requires me to nuke the mob." Or "Damn, the augment I got for beating it with melee damage sucks compared to this or that cheap glove I can find on the AH." Good idea in theory, but in practice I don't think it'll be that cool or convenient.

[meSchnitzel]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

HAHAHA people bitching about other people speculating, and then speculating themselves...

Nobody knows anything about this other than "there will be augments."

Anything posted past that is speculation.

I personaly think that it makes MORE sense to only be able to augment no-stat gear. It helps crafters create a demand for gear that otherwise would be NPCed for very little, along with making more accessible gear usable for non-endgame players.

Thats just my speculation however, and I understand others probably don't think that makes sense, more than likely because they want this augment system to apply to them and their gear... God forbid SE implimented a system that didn't cater to the ultra elite player once in a while.

[Mhurron]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

God forbid SE implimented a system that didn't cater to the ultra elite player once in a while.

Only the 'ultra elite' use gear with existing stat bonuses?

[Feba]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

yes, but
1- Not an issue as long as you're allowed to use the same piece of armor multiple times until you get the result you want, with sane time limits.
2- SE could implement it in ways other than nuking. The WHM Maat fight, for example, seems to be able to tell how much the player has cured themselves for. The way you fight it could include cures, buffs and so on.
3- there's a lot of things like that (crafting, for one) where it's basically just trial and error at first. As people work out the details, it becomes less of a hassle and more predictable.

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real 1337 players fight everything naked.


in real life

[Armando]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

yes, but 1- Not an issue as long as you're allowed to use the same piece of armor multiple times until you get the result you want, with sane time limits.

But SE already said you can only do the special NM training regimes once a day. Augmenting only one piece of gear at a time only once per real life day AND having to do so blindly through trial and error would be insanely lame.

[Feba]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

well, it's also not like SE implements perfect systems. Whatever they introduce will be tweaked by updates.

[Ziero]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

I can't see this happening in this system, SE makes it like you have complete control over what you choose to add to the armor. If it was designed as you're stating, it would require specific jobs and tactics and such. I mean, if you wanted to add +Str and +Dex to your gear, but you were solo sleep nuking the mob, then you would end up with more magic based stats.

Leave the "drops change based on strategy" stuff with the new ANNM system, and give people full contol over which stats to add to their new armor.

[Lmnop]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

Its called being jaded and jumping to conclusions, I think. Majority of the community these days is just full of piss and moan - they want to complain and be disappointed so they have more shit to complain about.

I'm getting pretty sick of it, personally. Its getting really damn old.

I'm sorry to call this down on you personally. You really don't deserve it. But it's the perfect post for my point:

If we get excited, we're "wildly speculating" not to mention let down at the actual execution. If we hold back our excitement and try to be what humans would call reasonable, we're "pissing and moaning."

You know what I'm sick of? We can't have a front page news thread w/out people complaining about other posters being one way or the other. Just post about the fucking topic, k?

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So no, I don't think most high end gear will be modifiable. I don't think anything outside of the more basic stats will be augmentable (basically, all the Level Sync stats). And I think any gear that already has a tag (rare or ex) will also be unavailable for augment. I shall expect very little of the system but get this:

I'm still excited!

Even a little bit of breath into those tiger ledelsens, maybe a means of putting melee offensive stats on a back piece pre-61 (something better than attack+3 or whatever Jaguar has). It'll be nice where we can get it. Skepticism aside though...


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More random thoughts:

The "WoW ripoff" comments - This is like playing Road Rash (motorcycle racing game where you can attack your competition) and saying "They stole the idea of punching from Street Fighter".

Since WoW was built from the ground up as a system with fluxation on armor stats (I think? I've never even watched anyone play the game but i was under the impression it was like Diablo to a lesser degree where the values of an item could change slightly), it's an easy step for the programmers. FFXI, on the other hand, was designed around steadfast rules and was hardcoded (well, difficultcoded) all along the way as "irreversible truths of FFXI facts and physics." Adding even a simple element of armor augments doesn't make it WoW.

Finally - by the title "...From your Equipment with Augmented Items", I had a glimmer of hope that mayhaps we could upgrade some weapons. I'd love to add STR+10 to a Berserker's axe...
but alas, all through the article they use the word "armor". I'm not going to expect weapons to be available at launch, though it'd really make my day.

[Durahansolo]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

I'd love to add STR+10 to a Berserker's axe...

*Creamed pants again.*........................I JUST CHANGED THEM!!!!!!!!!

[Malacite]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

you know what i'm sick of? We can't have a front page news thread w/out people complaining about other posters being one way or the other. Just post about the fucking topic, k?

qft.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

*Creamed pants again.*........................I JUST CHANGED THEM!!!!!!!!!

/em gives Durah some Depends....

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

I had a glimmer of hope that mayhaps we could upgrade some weapons. I'd love to add STR+10 to a Berserker's axe...
but alas, all through the article they use the word "armor". I'm not going to expect weapons to be available at launch, though it'd really make my day.

This would never happen, but if I could augment higher-end swords with E.Staff-level Magic Accuracy . . .

/drool

[Balfree]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

*pushes Lmnop around and bullies*

You're right but you're wrong!

*raises nose*

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

I'm sorry to call this down on you personally. You really don't deserve it. But it's the perfect post for my point:

If we get excited, we're "wildly speculating" not to mention let down at the actual execution. If we hold back our excitement and try to be what humans would call reasonable, we're "pissing and moaning."

You know what I'm sick of? We can't have a front page news thread w/out people complaining about other posters being one way or the other. Just post about the fucking topic, k?

There's a difference between speculation and raw bitching or assuming the worst.

Speculation is letting your imagination run wild with the potentials of the future. Is that what people were doing?

Speculating?

No, they were being negative and forming negative conclusions. Gloom and doom. Not speculating at all.

[Feba]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

Speculation is letting your imagination run wild with the potentials of the future. Is that what people were doing?

Speculating?

No, they were being negative and forming negative conclusions. Gloom and doom. Not speculating at all.

specâ‹…uâ‹…laâ‹…tion
   /ˌspɛkyəˈleɪʃən/ [spek-yuh-ley-shuhn]
–noun
1. the contemplation or consideration of some subject: to engage in speculation on humanity's ultimate destiny.
2. a single instance or process of consideration.
3. a conclusion or opinion reached by such contemplation: These speculations are impossible to verify.
4. conjectural consideration of a matter; conjecture or surmise: a report based on speculation rather than facts.


That word does not mean what you think it means.