Yoshi-P Wants more Tanks

[Firewind]

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I think they are going to have to give ACNs a free respec every time they equip the SCH soul. All SCH healing abilities use will use Mind if the data mined from the current client files is accurate. Succor, the main healing spell from SCH also seems to give the target temporary HP, similar to how Solace Curing worked with XI's WHM. It also gets a ground target AoE effect spell that gives a huge damage mitigation effect.

There's a list of abilities here

Basically WHM seems to be the Tank Healer and SCH the Raid Healer.

According to this Fairy helps out with Raid Healing too

[Malacite]

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Originally it was said we'd be getting 2 separate point pools for each job, but Yoshi put out a (shitty) correction stating that they want us to decide which job to play.


And for that, I give the nod back to FFXI. At no point (other than inventory) does XI punish you for wanting to play multiple jobs, but that's clearly what's happening in XIV - you're being forced to pick. 30 stat points isn't the end of the world, but it is still a rather large chunk equial to about 1 or 2 high-end pieces of gear at least.


Not to mention it feels rather arbitrary considering we have the freedom to level up every single craft and gatherer without any sort of restriction. That's perfectly fine, but being able to play 2 jobs to their fullest potential? Nope, gotta draw the line somewhere.

/facepalm

[Firewind]

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Eh, all they need to do is give Arcanist or Scholar a reverse Cleric Stance.

[Melody]

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After my Satasha experience, I'll need to roll tank. People don't know what the fuck they're doing. Had a Lancer who is now in my LS and didn't know anything about tanking. I had to kite the boss on Archer, I did it, but I was not pleased.

[Aeni]

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After my Satasha experience, I'll need to roll tank. People don't know what the fuck they're doing. Had a Lancer who is now in my LS and didn't know anything about tanking. I had to kite the boss on Archer, I did it, but I was not pleased.

Lancers aren't tanks ... lol.

[Melody]

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Lancers aren't tanks ... lol.

He was the only guy we had with the ability to do so. We got through it, but I died 2 times in the process.

[Aeni]

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He was the only guy we had with the ability to do so. We got through it, but I died 2 times in the process.

He can get Flash, I think, but not sure if he could get Overpower on his LNC. That isn't the problem, however, as he is also lacking damage mitigation tools. LNC cannot wear the heavier armor, either, so that makes them squishier than MRD/WAR/PLD/GLA. It's kind of like asking a DRG in FFXI to tank. Not very effective either.

[Melody]

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I've seen a Goon do it in XI no problem. O.o Then again the armor you wore spoke of who you were, not so much in XIV.

[Firewind]

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Yeah Lancer isn't a tank at all. Sure it is a little sturdier than the rest of the DD classes but it won't have plate armour or the Vitality and defensive stat growth that a WAR or PLD would have. The defensive cooldowns from Damage classes in this game are more "Oh shit I pulled aggro" buttons than anything else as well.

Really if you want a DD class to tank you are far better off using an Archer or THM and just kite the bosses around. or just breaking the entire dungeon with an Arcanist/SMN and a tanking pet.

Trust me, I know from personal experience that a THM can tank the first four dungeons.

[DakAttack]

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And this is where I would roll a tank...


IF I COULD LOG IN

[Melody]

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Yeah Lancer isn't a tank at all. Sure it is a little sturdier than the rest of the DD classes but it won't have plate armour or the Vitality and defensive stat growth that a WAR or PLD would have. The defensive cooldowns from Damage classes in this game are more "Oh shit I pulled aggro" buttons than anything else as well.

Really if you want a DD class to tank you are far better off using an Archer or THM and just kite the bosses around. or just breaking the entire dungeon with an Arcanist/SMN and a tanking pet.

Trust me, I know from personal experience that a THM can tank the first four dungeons.

I want video proof of this.

Also does anyone else but me find Flash to be fucking useless for pulling hate? I've done Guildhest (Under The Armor) and I'll run in first, tank a Lancer will pull hate. It takes like 3 Flashes+Savage Blade to pull the shit back. Gonna see how Shield Lob works out for taking hate. But right now I'm finding that frustrating.

[Firewind]

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Sleep, Bind, Heavy and Scathe on the move while the others kill the mob you're kiting, it's not hard to tank something while kiting in this game, especially when the Tank isn't doing their job. Jarre can back me up on this.

[Melody]

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Yeah I heard about your expedition in Copperbell. Also do you know how to start Rank 3 for Hunting List?

[Aeni]

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I want video proof of this.

Also does anyone else but me find Flash to be fucking useless for pulling hate? I've done Guildhest (Under The Armor) and I'll run in first, tank a Lancer will pull hate. It takes like 3 Flashes+Savage Blade to pull the shit back. Gonna see how Shield Lob works out for taking hate. But right now I'm finding that frustrating.

I think MRD gets provoke, so you'd probably have to level it, and then attach it to your GLA.

[Melody]

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I'm pissed off. You all can get a good chuckle out of it I suppose. I messed up and used up a weeks worth of time for nothing over going outside my designated job route, therefore the main quest (which is used to level your main) became gimped as shit. I'm going to start over now, because the only real thing I can do is those half-ass in between quest that Req certain levels to do, but not start. God damn it all I'm mad. Your left in a limbo if you don't use your main.