FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

[Kailea]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

Does your gf think he's the hottest guy alive? I sense a bit of jealousy..

jealousy my ass.... calling that guy a vampire is bull crap. a Vampire does not SPARKLE!

[Solymir]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

I want whatever FFXIV has.

[Armando]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

Does your gf think he's the hottest guy alive? I sense a bit of jealousy..

No, he's just a very retarded character which is completely reasonable to hate.

I believe the proper term is Manpire.

[Pwnagraphic]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

Does your gf think he's the hottest guy alive? I sense a bit of jealousy..

[Ziero]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

Referring to Edward Cullen as any sort of Vampire is an insult to all other Vampires. Edward Cullen isn't a Vampire, he's a fairy =(

[pixiehawk]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

ocomeon, you know you wanna be all brooding and save and love the humans with them! Save the humans, love the humans! Don't eat them!


And SPARKLE! Never forget to SPARKLE!

Angel does not SPARKLE!

[Kailea]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

ocomeon, you know you wanna be all brooding and save and love the humans with them! Save the humans, love the humans! Don't eat them!


And SPARKLE! Never forget to SPARKLE!

*punches BurningPanther untill he stops talking* no!

[BurningPanther]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

...gtfo.

ocomeon, you know you wanna be all brooding and save and love the humans with them! Save the humans, love the humans! Don't eat them!


And SPARKLE! Never forget to SPARKLE!

[Pwnagraphic]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

There's no excuse now..


Supremacists..

[Malacite]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

O.o now see Nuriko took it even further than I was willing to lol.

<- wide awake & sober now. And yes it was in poor taste I said as much in my initial reply lol.

[Pwnagraphic]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

When der fuehrer says we is de master race
We heil (pffft) heil (pffft) right in Der Fuehrer's Face
Not to love der fuehrer is a great disgrace
So we heil (pffft) heil (pffft) right in Der Fuehrer's Face

What the?

[Nuriko]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

OOOO, I WANNA BE A NAZI!!!


... orz

When der fuehrer says we is de master race
We heil (pffft) heil (pffft) right in Der Fuehrer's Face
Not to love der fuehrer is a great disgrace
So we heil (pffft) heil (pffft) right in Der Fuehrer's Face

[Ziero]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

I'm not one of those assholes that goes around talking about what jobs he wants to see down to what weapon they yield and what their evasion grade is. I was clearly speaking in a general sense: that the summon is linked much more heavily to the player's conduct and control; so that the player is effectively using the avatar as their character instead of their character. Whether that means directly controlling the avatar itself, while the player follows along behind it (somewhat like the Pokemon Trainer example that Armando gave), or having the player literally morph into the summon, or the player is absorbed by the summon and protected by it (think Yuna's Falafel form in X-2), or all of the Summons are actually mecha and the player is the pilot.

Well I am one of those assholes that goes around talking about specifics for potential jobs. But seeing as we both agree that the player should have some sort of direct control over the summon itself, it seems we agree on the basic concept. The only difference is I don't see someone who becomes the monster as a Summoner because that's a completely different job class.

Dark Knights are like vampires... but good vampires.

Like Angel or Edward Cullen. :D

...gtfo.

well it could have all been solved if they learned from Edge in FFIV or Shadow in FFVI, in NIN in FFV. They didn't need tools to use ninja magic (well okay Shadow and FFT ninjas didn't have ninjutsu, but technically ninjutsu is better off feeding on MP anyway.) also shurikens could have been NPC store bought at set prices that never rise.

Actually Shadow and FFT ninjas *did* work exactly like FFXI ninjas. You needed to buy their elemental balls to throw at enemies. Each ball had the effect of a weak elemental spell so it was effectively casting magic by throwing items. FFVII had items similar to this as well. Even Yuffie, the closest thing to a Ninja in FFVII comes with the Throw materia, effectively allowing you to throw weapons, like a ninja, to do damage. As far as I can remember, FF1 Ninja and Edge are the only two ninjas in FF history who didn't spend money to do damage.

[jenova_9]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

well it could have all been solved if they learned from Edge in FFIV or Shadow in FFVI, in NIN in FFV. They didn't need tools to use ninja magic (well okay Shadow and FFT ninjas didn't have ninjutsu, but technically ninjutsu is better off feeding on MP anyway.) also shurikens could have been NPC store bought at set prices that never rise.

[Karinya]

Re: FFXIV needs (job) to be awesome.

Speaking of economists... the expense of NIN is a matter of supply and demand. Everyone and his brother's dog levels NIN at least to 37 and there's a ton of main NINs too. That drives the price of NIN gear and tools way up. Look at what happened to the price of ammo after a bunch of RNG quit or switched to other jobs: the fact that fewer people are playing RNG now makes it cheaper to play than it was when it was a trendy overpowered arrowburner. NIN is still in its trendy overpowered phase, so it's more popular than God and everything it uses is expensive.

That being said, I'm pretty sure shurikens were intended to be Awesome But Impractical and will stay that way. But as far as the basic gear and ninja tools, players are doing that to themselves/each other.