WAR is unique in its own way

[Sparky]

i,ve looked at almost all threads in the warrior forum.
why do people think warrior is just some sort of class you use to train weapons so you can prepare it to become a dark knight or dragoon?
isnt every job unique in its own way?
i like being a warrior,kicking ass with my sword (about to switch to axe) and protecting people (im a taru but beside the point)
warriors can deal great damage and i think that the only class i would ever switch warrior for is red mage (i never casted magic,what a shame huh?)

[Shann_Phoenix]

War is often seens as a 3rd rate tank after pld and nin or a lower grade dmg dealer compared to drk/sam/mnk/drg/ran.

All classes are compared to each other, the biggest proof of that are the constant thread about drk vs drg, ran vs blm.

War main strenght is versatility, you can tank, be a dmg dealer and yeild some utility with the break ws and the ability to use most weapons.

Yes a specialised advanced class will perform better than us, but the point of getting a war is the extra utility you get even if your group would be technicly stronger if you had all specialists. War can fill multiple roles with minor changes, like when i tank i change my dex rings for vit rings, also if one of your melee leave the group, it's easier to find a replacement since war can play both tank or dmg dealer.

Take this example, a pt with whm, blm and rdm and 3 melee 1st set is pld, drk, drg, 2nd set is pld, drk, war. Pld leave : 1st set must now find a main tank, while 2nd set can either find a tank or another dmg dealer.

Also you will need to level multiple weapons as a war, i put in my exp party comment that i can use mnk, thf and whm for SJ and great axe, axe and polearm for weapons. This will get you picked over a class that only have 1 weapon and that weap doesn't fit in the group most effective sc. Example you can pick either a war or drk for last spot, you have a thf and would like to use sneak/trick viper, drk got only scythe leveled while war can use great axe and great sword, they will probably pick the war and ask for powerslash -> viper bite.

It's your job to prove others that a war is more than a training class for advanced jobs.

[Cali]

WAR isn't a 3rd class job... I liked my WAR... but because MNK is higher lvl, closer to my money farmer target.... you know ninja will eat your gil like you eat meat mithkabob.... and since I want to play ninja before 2005, I would rather play a MNK...

WAR's specialities are:-
-Its ability to play as the best sub for melee
-Able to use all weapon
-Making alternative tanker job such as WAR/NIN instead of NIN/WAR..
-can take a variety of job and still play its designated role, like for PLD, no one want PLD/WHM or such even though it's not bad, but that lose the tanking power of PLD....

but you have to understand there are a few things against war:

Damage issue: would you choose a WAR over a RNG? or a DRK? or a MNK? they do more damage generally...compared to WAR

Tanking issue: with all those rich players out there, a NIN/WAR would be the best, with its utsusemi tanking... PLD has high defense which is good for tanking, even though damage-wise, WAR is a lot better than PLD... but most players prefer PLD tank, I personally see PLD and WAR the same tanker, 1 with 7:3 def:atk, another with 5:5...

Popularity issue: most players didn't abandon WAR because it sucked, it's because they wanted another job... and WAR is the best sub for any melee ^^ there are other job with better attraction than WAR: DRG, having a wyvern seem fun... SAM, I can be kenshin!!... THF, money, gil, and more money... NIN, I am naruto now... but WAR is just like a normal attacker of any RPG

Don't get me wrong, I like WAR, planning to get its AF one day...

[Kibagami]

War's Main Atraction!

YOU CAN ALMOST HAVE ALL OF THE LVL 230 WS!!!!!

LOL...but it's true.

The real thing that makes WAR great is Gillo>Raising Crush. Suposedly one of best (if not the best) renkei of the game.

As an after thought. SAM's are suposed to be the masters of renkei, but i think WAR should be the masters; I mean, that's why their last ability "Agresor" boosts accuaracy, so they can actually hit with B rating weapons, and with SAM sub (and all the uber equipment: peacock charm, hauberk+1, life belt, etc.) i don't think WAR would suck at any renkei.

WARNING: this comes from the same guy who insists that WAR/DRK is "good"...

[Cali]

Re: War's Main Atraction!

Originally posted by Kibagami
YOU CAN ALMOST HAVE ALL OF THE LVL 230 WS!!!!!

LOL...but it's true.

The real thing that makes WAR great is Gillo>Raising Crush. Suposedly one of best (if not the best) renkei of the game.

As an after thought. SAM's are suposed to be the masters of renkei, but i think WAR should be the masters; I mean, that's why their last ability "Agresor" boosts accuaracy, so they can actually hit with B rating weapons, and with SAM sub (and all the uber equipment: peacock charm, hauberk+1, life belt, etc.) i don't think WAR would suck at any renkei.

WARNING: this comes from the same guy who insists that WAR/DRK is "good"...

Too annoying to seperate the quotes... but I do hope you reply for question 1.

1. So Last WS isn't ex WS? O.o;;

2. Reason why SAM are masters of renkei, is because, they are the only one that create self 5-ren skillchains... or create multiple 2-men skillchain in PT.... at a short interval... even though the limited weapon option of SAM reduces the choices of chain, but they still have the massive TP advantage over anyone but you are right to say WAR has no disadvantage at renkei... actually so far, I only found DRK is the worst at skillchain... they are so slow and so inaccurate... they usually can have me stacking upto 200% before skillchain...

[Weezingpipes]

Recently playing my warrior to catch up on sub job levels, I learned a bit more about the job in relation to other jobs. Just in limited samples, WAR has been a more damaging job than other melee jobs up to 33 when THF gets Viper Bite but really keeps up with DRG and DRK due to already having good offensive boosting abilities which other jobs really don't get until 30 and 50 (Berserk and Double Attack respectively). One of the biggest benefits warriors get at mid level is the break abilities which are very useful in increasing the entirely parties melee output. Honestly wish I had grouped with more warriors because of this, but not that there were many main job warriors to choose from - I think the ratio of DRK or DRG to WAR post level 30 is something like 8:1. Anyway after playing it for a while I would definately consider leveling WAR to higher levels because as mentioned it is a quite versatile, good amount of offensive abilities. Post 60 WAR seems mostly a substitional damage dealer like DRG DRK MNK etc, and they fill that role quite well. Party really isn't short changed taking a warrior as a damage dealer.

Kind of a shame really, wish there were more higher level warriors but most people opt for the status of the advanced jobs, and I'm sure that oh so ugly AF armor is quite a turn off too. Warrior is definately in no way a "training" job and is quite effective at higher levels and people really should wise up to how useful a well played warrior can be to a party. They aren't all that far behind DRG or DRK damage wise, and breaks add nicely to overall damage output.

[Kibagami]

No, the last WS are not EX. As long as you have your skill high enough you can use it. Bards can use evarisation(or however its spelled), RDM can use savage blade, etc.

And about the look concern. AF is sexy to some and ugly to others but the trhuth is you not going to use it much. And in the end if you get all the UBER eq you will look exactly like a DRK, but with an Axe. Well if you use a 2H sword and go anon no one will know your an WAR.

[Rudo]

You will use AF if you plan on tanking. The high DEF, enmity+ and HP+ stats it gives are a must. Otherwise you'll use stuff like Hauberk and the rest of the Thick armor set. Even Adaman if you're lucky enough. Can't wait to see what kind of stats the new AF will have though.