theif job help (request)

[Genuine]

Besides, elvaan is the worst race for thief.

uhm..., crackwhore

[ibroyles]

Originally posted by moblin
i have been a elvaan theif before and they are not great.

>.>

[Omena]

Originally posted by Fire
This is simply not true. Flame rings are a very good example. There are plenty of rings that you can choose from, Thunder, Sniper's, hell I've even seen alot use Breeze and Tiger rings. But most thief's I've seen use either Flame rings or combo of Flame/Sniper, including myself.

Why on earth would you wear Flame rings over Sniper's? A couple Flame rings might add a point or two to your damage, but the accuracy is always more useful.

And Tiger rings? Those thieves are gimps or just plain fools.

[Tokitoki]

For Weaponskill you can use +STR to make your WS better. For instance, since Shark Bite isnt ENTIRELY dependant on hitting for strikes, since one is a garunteed and there is only 1 other, you can use a mix of STR as well as DEX instead of using Snipers.

[Fire]

Shrug I'm a mithra using optical hat, scorp harness, and life belt I can use Flame rings because I don't need to use Sniper rings.
Sniper rings help with TP gain and Dancing edge. But guess what, you won't be using Dancing Edge in a EXP pt 66+ and you will not be using it vs. HNM. In a HNM situation Shark Bite does a lot more damage paired with SATA then DESATA does. Reason being is, no matter how much accuracy you have, you more then likely won't hit all 5 times on DE. So for Shark Bite I would suggest Thunder rings, to boost Shark damage.
In a exp party it really doesnt matter. I hit just as much with Flame rings as I do with Snipers. I would rather have the extra damage per hit even if it is only 3-5 damage more then waste a slot.
The Tiger rings are for solo play only. AGI+ATK isn't entirely stupid but I would rather use Flame, Breeze or Snipers depending on the situation.

[Aeolus]

Help

Im starting again soon and i wanna go war to 18 then thf to 37 (nin-37 rng to 75) buuuuuuuuuuuuttt back on topic if i go thf ill need to use h2h till 33 id reckon but without nin sub how the hell am i supposed to get dagger to 100 for lv33. Otherwise i could just use h2h to 37 but i don tthink pt will be happy bout that. Should i just stop thf at 33 then till i can lv dagger to a high enough lv say when my rngs 60 or somethin?

[guyincorporated]

Use daggers in lame parties that won't notice that you're dragging down the xp rate.

[Tokitoki]

Or just switch after you lvl up to cap it again >.> It doesnt take long to cap.

[Omena]

Originally posted by Tokitoki
For Weaponskill you can use +STR to make your WS better. For instance, since Shark Bite isnt ENTIRELY dependant on hitting for strikes, since one is a garunteed and there is only 1 other, you can use a mix of STR as well as DEX instead of using Snipers.

Sorry, but the only stat that directly affects Shark Bite is DEX. STR only adds the normal damage bonus.

And Fire, of course you hit well without snipers because you're L75. The mobs your exp parties fight aren't even IT, or if they are, they're very close to VT.

Since no dagger WS is affected by STR, it only makes sense to switch on DEX gear for Shark Bite (and SA) and have +acc gear for TP building.

[Tokitoki]

STR effects the damage of all WS and attacks. Its not a multipler, no, but it does effect everything. What your saying is that if i took away all my STR i could still do damage on a Shark Bite because of DEX and thats not true. And notice i said STR WHERE I CAN KEEP MY DEX.

[Aeolus]

Lv up, switch to dagger till capped then hit h2h till next lv then?

[Pusspuss]

Sorry, but the only stat that directly affects Shark Bite is DEX. STR only adds the normal damage bonus.

STR affects the max damage you could do and ATK affects the average damage you do. If you dont think STR affects WS get a STR down effect from a crab and do a WS. In the higher levels you lean towards +ATK and +STR to get better damage.

[Omena]

Originally posted by Pusspuss
STR affects the max damage you could do and ATK affects the average damage you do. If you dont think STR affects WS get a STR down effect from a crab and do a WS. In the higher levels you lean towards +ATK and +STR to get better damage.

Duh, of course STR has an effect, but since the WS itself does not use STR (it adds a percentage of your DEX, and DEX only to your base damage), it is a much better idea to raise DEX.

[Tokitoki]

If you can raise STR without losing DEX then why not, also DEX's effect seems to diminish after a while.

Dex is overrated...

[moblin]

thx

thx for the info /smile