Solutions for macro lag?

[Riskimew]

Just to get this out of the way, here's my typical macro:

/ja "Sneak Attack" <me>
/wait 1
/ja "Trick Attack" <me>
/wait 1
/ws "Viper Bite" <t>

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Looks great, right? And in fact, 90% of the time, I can press that macro and everything will go off perfectly.

That 10% of the time, however, never fails to be a situation like this: I'm in a group of mostly JP players (I happily group with anyone who will take me, though my japanese doesn't go much beyond 'I want to eat food' and knowing when NA jokes are being told), I alt-# the macro and something like this happens.

*regular sneak attack message*
Unable to use that job ability.
*Viper bite goes*

Or

*regular sneak attack message*
*regular trick attack message*
Unable to use that weapon skill.

Same exact macro, and it looks like the standard THF macro, if I'm reading the boards right. Anyway, this was particularly frustrating tonight, since I'm pretty sure the JP group I was with either thought I was retarded, or just were snickering at the idiot THF trying frantically to explain what's going on. [{I'm sorry.} {Trick Attack} + {Sneak Attack} = {Macro} & {Macro} {Stun} {Lag}] Either way, if there's a way to solve this, I'd love to hear it - I've tried the /wait 2 thing, but frankly that sucks worse - yeah, all three 'parts' of the macro work then, but I inevitably end up swinging the dagger normally during one of the /wait 2s, which screws up the whole macro.

So is there a solution? Some FFXI settings I can alter (I remember Everquest having a cfg file where you could boost up your maximum upstream or downstream, for problems like this)? Or am I simply screwed?

[replica]

I hear a seperate macro for your WS is always handy~

[LockeCole]

Here's what I do

sneak + trick on one macro
weapon skill on another macro

If things are extra laggy have a macro that just does trick attack or sneak attack (2nd part of the first macro) and pay attention when it doesn't trigger. Time your macro so that it happens after a normal attack if possible to minimize it, but it usually isn't a problem.

[Kastel]

I started having this problem too, and realized I had to stop downloading anime during PTs on my other comp ><

In any case, like everyone said, its useful to have that macro and a spare WS macro, that you can jam down. Although a lot of time, I'll hit macro, then open up WS menu and push down Dancing or Shark Bite, just in case

[Riskimew]

Alright, I'll give these a shot - thanks.

I did put VB on a seperate macro, but it seems it would only rarely sync up in time for a perfect SA+TA+WS - at least it would keep the chain for the blms.

[Belmoth]

I also have this problem on occasion. I changed the /wait from 1 to 2 and it works everytime. Might want to try that see if it helps.

[Narru]

Sneak
/wait 1
Trick
/wait 1
WS

If laggy, just bump up the second wait to 2:

Sneak
/wait 1
Trick
/wait 2
WS

If still laggy, and you find yourself not getting the Trick across, bump the first wait to 2

Sneak
/wait 2
Trick
/wait 2
WS

Note that in no lag, I'd rather use the first setup, since /wait 2 might be too long and you'll autoattack between SATA and WS.

It takes two seconds to go into your macro and change the weight of the wait.

[Kousai]

i use:
/wait 1.5
... works for me everytime

[John Doe III]

Originally posted by Narru
Sneak
/wait 1
Trick
/wait 1
WS

If laggy, just bump up the second wait to 2:

Sneak
/wait 1
Trick
/wait 2
WS

If still laggy, and you find yourself not getting the Trick across, bump the first wait to 2

Sneak
/wait 2
Trick
/wait 2
WS

Note that in no lag, I'd rather use the first setup, since /wait 2 might be too long and you'll autoattack between SATA and WS.

It takes two seconds to go into your macro and change the weight of the wait.

You could have yourself a problem by doing /wait 2. If you are lagging or what not and you do the macro for sneak + trick with /wait 2 you could find yourself attacking after trick or sneak attack to cancel out the viper. If you got any of that..or if it has happened to you.

[Glatz]

Oddly enough I found that you don't need a wait between SA and TA if you put TA first.

So
/job Trick Attack <me>
/job Sneak Attack <me>
/wait 1
/weaponskill Viperbite <t>

[ichnob]

Really? That's an interesting find. I'll try it out in-game next time just to get a feel for it.

--
Back to typing out term paper.

[Fuuko]

Originally posted by Glatz
Oddly enough I found that you don't need a wait between SA and TA if you put TA first.

So
/job Trick Attack <me>
/job Sneak Attack <me>
/wait 1
/weaponskill Viperbite <t>

That doesnt work D;
(I tested it)

[Tan'o]

Personally I hit my SA macro and just as I see its animation I spam my TA and when that animation pops up I spam my WS macro. I never have had an attack insert its way in but then I only use it after an attack.

For the renkei it should work fine because if you spam the macros fast enough there won't be time for you to auto-attack

I'm only THF 35 though so I haven't been using it too long. I don't know how it works in higher level PTs. As RDM though when our THF did this (set PT) he never missed out on a fuidama+VB.

[Spider-Dan]

I've heard various things about TASA being more reliable than SATA, but I've had them both fail in situations where they really shouldn't.

I usually prefer to use SA+TA+VB in one macro, as I am not at all confident in the reliability of the execution of keyboard macros, especially under heavy load. As of now, all my fuidama macros are SATA (SA first, /wait 1 in between).

My reasoning is that if the macro does mess up, I'd rather lose the TA, get the guaranteed SA+WS hit (for respectable damage), and deal with the hate (I'll have shadows up anyway), as opposed to having SA fail, and getting a pathetic TA+WS.

BTW, decimal points in /wait commands are thrown out. "/wait 1.5" is the same as "/wait 1". I specifically did a test on this, though I can't remember exactly what it was. It was something like"/wait 1.5" x 2 not adding up to "/wait 3".

[replica]

It's true. TA can be canceled into SA (although i've only seen ONE THF do it out of all the thieves I've PT'd with)

I prefer

/ja SA
/wait 1
/ja TA

I WS seperately D; alt+w, enter, enter lol.. I just don't like macro WS ._. there's always delay