Hiya (thief Q)

[CassieX]

Hi everyone my name is Cassie ^_^. Im new here and what really got me interested was ur forums and how neat and pretty everything looks =).

Anyways I was wondering if any of u can help me with the thief Questions =).

1. When you gain sneak attak at lvl 15, is that a turning point of a thief making it really fun:p .

2. A thief's AF armor looks really kool :spin: I was wondering if a person who has already obtained the AF armor, is it really worth it?

3. Also btw everyone is sooo experienced is there a secret to lvling up a thief :sweat: Im currently lvl 10 and its a lot of stress =P.

Thank you, Experienced Thief players plz reply ^_^ *kiss* thx for all the help :spin: :spin: :spin:

[Socrates]

u must make your own party. if u learn macros and teach them to people, they will follow you around.

My THF is lv 13 only but i can still make PTs pretty easy. make friends! group up.

oh...buy some meat mithkabobs. use them b4 u start attacking. u can almost do as much as a war with same weapon.

that's all.

[John Doe III]

Re: Hiya (thief Q)

Originally posted by CassieX
Anyways I was wondering if any of u can help me with the thief Questions =).

1. When you gain sneak attak at lvl 15, is that a turning point of a thief making it really fun:p .

2. A thief's AF armor looks really kool :spin: I was wondering if a person who has already obtained the AF armor, is it really worth it?

3. Also btw everyone is sooo experienced is there a secret to lvling up a thief :sweat: Im currently lvl 10 and its a lot of stress =P.

1. YES! Makes it well worth the 15 levels

2. You will equip most of the AF armor, but somewhere along the lines you will find better stats and replace it.

3. Just keep it up , use h2h or one hand sword you will do fine.

[CassieX]

Thx for the response guys

BTW also im wondering whichc is better Sword or H2H?

My thief is currently using a dagger (damage suxs:sweat: )
was wondering if there are any daggers also that are worth it?
Thank you :spin: :spin: :spin:

[Fuuko]

I like HTH better, I do more damage with them..
If you gonna use swords, you would use the Small sword (dex+2)..

[xarddrax]

THF i think is one of the hardest classes to get a party with. No one thinks of THF as a dmg dealers, but they will all realize how much dmg you will/can do once you hit 30.
When you stack Trick attack with sneak attack you will do major damage (more than many WARs). The first time i did the stack was with a low level dagger (since i was too lazy to buy a new one). Well i was shocked when my attacks that were about 15-20 each hit on a clipper, hit for 168 using the "stack". Also once you get Viper Bite (Dagger weapon skill at level 33) its even more awesome since it does double damage and poisons (imagine hitting for over 300 when you normally hit for 20-30). Dont give up on thief, and focus on using a Dagger!!!! Its quick and builds TP up fast for your skills.
Flee is a fun skill too. Granted, its not too cool, but if things go bad, you can ditch your party and zone before the beast come to you...let the other party members get killed.....someone needs to survive and shout for raises

[John Doe III]

ya, People dont realize how usefull thiefs really are. If you sub war and everything goes bad, just taunt - 2hr - then if it wears off and everyone is dead then do tonzura and run for zone.

[Kafeen]

The damage from h2h is ok but the attack speed is terrible, 2 quick hits then a huge wait before you can attack again. Personally I prefer the speed of my dagger, its not quite as high as h2h, unless one of the puches misses in which case its worse, but I can attack 2 times in the time it takes to get off a double attack.

Haven't tried a sword yet, I might borrow one and see how I like it.

[trip69]

i use a bee stinger - and get what items i can to boost my str, dex, and agi


beestinger = 4dmg 150speed
brass xiphos+1 = 13dmg 222speed

i hit more often with the dagger so i'll be keeping it even for my bard...

daggers can be cool, just have suckie ws until lvl 33 for thf (skill 100 viper)

good luck thiefs - i'll be migrating

[ausgunblade]

I just hit level 14 my self, i was soloing from levels 1-11 than its a pain in the backside if you don't join partys. At the moent I'm using knife and i switch to my 1h sword scmitar when its a low defence monster but you should keep skilling up the dagger as once you hit 40 skill gust slash, you can skill chain it to war's axe WS and do alot of damage even before you get to level 15.

[Tokitoki]

Trust me on this ive partied with a lot of other thieves and am a thief myself, I use 1h and do almost twice as much damage as those using daggers. Start using the dagger at lvl 30 thats when you can use Viper Bite. H2H is ok...but the speed is horrible and in the time they hit once i hit 2-3 times and do as much or a little less in 1 hit.

[kanomjeeb]

The thing that a thf should use grapple is skillchain.

Grapple gives you combo WS which can make fusion (lv2 fire). It's really strong.

At low lvs, most war use 1h sword, so burning/red lotus -> combo = fusion which blm can do MB fire.

its really strong.

if you go for 1h sword, you will end up doing sneak+fastblade. Its not too bad but you will need a 2hander to connect this skill chain.

Double thrust > fast blade or Power slash > fastblade. (generates lv2 water/ice)

Its generally harder to find a 2 hander than finding a war who can use 1h sword.

Further more, blm got fire at lv11 or something. That means you can start doing this strong skillchain a lot earlier than blizzard.

Don't mention that Combo WS is 3hits WS while Fastblade is 2hits. Combo does a lot more damage than fastblade which brings skillchain effect damage to go up even more.

For daggers, forget em, at lv33 you can train dagger straight from 0 to 90 in a couple hours, and most dagger WS don't work with sneak attack including the gust slash you mentioned. The one that works with sneak is shadow stich. If you insist on using gust slash, you will be just a rdm who can't cure.

[Nameless]

I really need to get some items :sweat:

Beestinger (sophie won't pop!!!! >.>)
Small sword (where can I get this? I've heard of it, and it was mentioned in this topic, but I have no idea where it is)
And other dex things that aren't weapons (damn lizzy hunters)

I cap both H2H and 1H sword and haven't touched Dagger passed 2, meh.

I found my sneak > fast blade did more damage to a snipper than my sneak > combo, but I use H2H more because my sword is spara as of now

[CassieX]

Wow all these replies really helped guys thanks

I think ill go Sword, try to find the small sword too ^^

thx again

[JoeyK]

A small sword (lvl 19 +2 dex) can be gotten from a quest in bastok or usually very cheap in the bastok AH (i paid 1.5K)

About small swords...how long should you keep the small sword? In other words, at what point does the +2 dex give way to a more damaging sword?


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I found my sneak > fast blade did more damage to a snipper than my sneak > combo, but I use H2H more because my sword is spara as of now
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Fast blade probably did more due to the fact that certain weapons perfrom better against certain enemies. HtH will be weak against shelled enemies like crabs but will tear apart skeletons.