Thief Sub-Jobs. Please rate it.

[CrimsonDeath]

Thief/Warrior:

Advantages:

As far as I can see, you would get a hp boost, and an attack and defense boost. That would help Sneak Attack out a bit with more damage.

Weapon:
1 handed swords?
2 handed swords?
Hand to Hand?
Daggers?

Thief/Monk

Advantages:

You would get hp boost, less attack delay with hand to hand. And you would get accumulate, helps alot with sneak attack.

Weapon:
Hand to Hand?
1 handed swords?
Daggers?


Thief/Ninja:

Advantages:
Dual wield, higher evasion, higher dex.

Weapons:
(2) 1 handed sword?
Hand to hand?
Daggers?


Please tell me what you think on the weapons and on the advantages and disadvantages.

[Nameless]

Weapon is determined by main job, sub won't change a thing in that category.

[X19]

I would choose THF/WAR.
As I've heard, Monks aren't so great for a sub to Thief. After you reach level 33, you can get a lvl 100 Dagger skill named Viper Bite. Viper Bite can stack with Sneak/Trick Attack. It's really powerful. Hand to hand weapons may come in handy until you hit 33, but after that Daggers really become powerful. Thief excel in Daggers so why not use them ^^. I hope I helped you make a decision.

[X19]

Also, Dual wield is basically adding the two weapons' attack delay.
THF/WAR may have a bit less AGI/DEX but STR makes up for it. Equipment is determined by your main job so you can't wear NIN or MNK or WAR items unless they are your main job. THF/WAR also has double attack. Double attack can stack with THF's Triple Attack. It'd be a pretty nice thing if that happens ^^. Extra Def by subbing WAR isn't that bad of a deal also...It's not like you need the extra AGI because you get Physical Evasion. Also, it's not like your tanking (THFs aren't made to be tankers). Provoke comes in handy when you're WAR friend is low on HP. It's all a nice combo, but it's your character. You choose what's best ^^

[CrimsonDeath]

Thanks.

I think I will go with THF/WAR. Answer me one question though, would you? Having a sub job, I have to level my secondary job right? So say if I wanted to be a 30/15. I would have to raise the 15 then do the thirty or vice versa? Or does my subjob level with my main? I haven't got the game yet so I don't know much. My computer comes in Wednesday, so I should be playing by then. Also, WAR can use some daggers right? I was thinking I might as well, level my Daggers skill sometime also. Thanks for any info.

[X19]

If you have a character say a THF, you need to get him to lvl 18 to unlock sub job quest. After you finish the quest, you can get a sub job (yey!). You have a warrior that you haven't started yet, and you add him as a support job. It will become THF18/WAR1. Say you wanted to lvl the Warrior to 15. You will need to change your Main job to Warrior to lvl him up because you can only get experience for main job. So you have your lvl 1 Warrior and you lvl him up to 15. You go back to your mog house and change back to THF/WAR. The lvl will become 18/9. You can only have 1/2 of your main jobs lvl for your support job. And then you say lvl up your thief to 35. Your lvl will be THF35/WAR15. Well, sorta hard to explain, but I hope you get it. Good luck!

[Mycroft]

I don't understand what you're saying in regards to having a ninja subclass, X19.

I'd planned to go thf/ninja but I am admittedly ignorant aboutwhat benefits a ninja offers besides stats.

Are you saying that the dual wield is useless?

Warrior certainly sounds like the way to as you describe it, but is there something else about the ninja that makes it a worthwhile subclass? Some other skill that one gets? Or is it simply stats? Maybe the dexterity addition makes a thief a lot more powerful?

It seems to be very popular choice amongst high level thieves.

Also, in terms of a sub job, is it possible to level your sub before you get to level 18? That is, if I'm a level 11 thief and I change my main class to warrior and level that up to 11, when I select it as a sub will those levels carry over? Or do I have to wait until I've completed that quest?

[X19]

Well, I've learned that I was wrong about NIN class...The weapon delay isn't added or so I've heard...It's really up to you which ever class you think is best.

As for your other question, your lvls for your classes don't add up (ie. I have THF10 and a WHM10. They don't add up to 20) Each job has their own set of lvl. I originally wanted to go MNK so I lvled him up to 10. Then, I decided I wanted to become a THF (so I changed jobs at mog house and started with a lvl 1 THF) and I lvled him up to 18 (min lvl for sub quest). After I got done with the sub job quest, I decided to sub my MNK which was already lvled up to 10. I had an 18THF/9MNK (sub job can only be half of the main job). When I lvled up to 20, I got a 20THF/10MNK. As of right now, I have a lvl 22THF/10MNK (currently hunting for some gear ^^)

[CrimsonDeath]

Welp. I guess I will try them all out and see how I like them. I get my computer tommorow or the next day, so I will be able to start then. But thank you for your time.

[Fuuko]

Is SAM good as sub? I can't decide between SAM and NIN... >_<
I might be a RNG in the future, so I'd choose one that I can use with RNG, also..
I just got to 30 after hours waiting for party invites and I'm so happy Now I just gotta master Fuidama/Yokodama...

[Tokitoki]

The THF/NIN would be useful at higher lvls with dual wield daggers. THF/WAR is good with Double and Triple attack with the THF and WAR jobs. THF/MNk would only really be best if you want the VIT and HP boost becuase after lvl 30ish you wont want to use Grapple anymore.

[Deli]

I posted on another thread ... and gonna put it here
u should use ur subjob to complement what u are trying to do.

If u are partying for lvl up, if u need to fight bones, sub mnk will be it, dagger gives very little damages on bones. for most normal lvl up PT, sub war or nin will be good. For lower lvl pt, it will better better to have taunt ability for mages' safety, but at higher lvl ninja's dual wielding will be better. For max WS damages, w/ berserker still gives higher damages. So i would say nin or war> not much differences. Sub sam will only be good if the monster, say lvling up mob or HNM has high evasion that u can hardly hit. Also, sub rdm or whm can be good for hunting coffers, and also for certain HNM whereby thf will be only by the side doing only backstab and status healing. Sub BST can also be useful if u need to do solo NM fights.

Note: if new to the game, focus on using proper subjob for lvling. gaining of other useful subjobs can be done later.

[Milon]

Pre-level 30 Monk is a great sub because of quicker h2h and Boost. For a low level Thief nothing beats h2h, especially with a Monk sub. Combo is the best low level weapon skill a Thief can get. At level 30 with the WAR you can use Berserk which would be better than boost because it lasts longer and you don't have to keep using it. The only bad side is the down time of 2 minutes between uses, but overall it would be better for the Thief. You also will probably start using dagger to level up for Viper Bite which you can get at L33. This goes with SA-TA and can land exceptional damage.