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  • #31
    I think you have the cone wrong. i belive it should be-

    Tank<>monster
    ......../|
    ....thief

    you should be a step or so behind the tank. Your diagram has you standing infront of him. That may be the problem. But thats only a guess, not really shure.
    You forgot the most important rule of combat. You?re the ugly macho bad guy, everyone knows the macho bad guy can?t win especially when he?s fighting the exceptionally handsome and popular main character. Your death was inevitable as soon as you showed up with that ugly face. ~Bastard

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    • #32
      the reason why you have to keep the tank locked is to satify the requirement of damauchi(deceive).

      the requirement is, you have to stand behind a friend. Locking tank helps you the be in the same line as your friend which the game algorithm will consider this as standing behind someone.
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      • #33
        use japanese encode

        ?›?¨X
        ?ª
        ??

        X is the enemy
        ?› is your tank
        ?? is the THF
        arrows represents the direction to face at.
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        but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
        transform a yellow spot into the sun.

        - Pablo Picasso

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        • #34
          After some experimenting, it seems there are these criteria: One, you must be behind the tank, Two you must be out of the line of sight of the monster, and Three the tank must be in your line of sight. This is why locking onto the tank makes it so much easier to yokodama
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          • #35
            On anothe note when trying yokodama.. if the tank your trying to lock on moves around a lot while fighting which most ppl do switch their position once or twice during a fight. Feel free to put him/her in their place and tell them not to move. I deal with this all the time


            A little off topic here since the NM link on this site doesn't work on my cpu for some reason.

            Where is that sophia NM I keep hearing about that drops that sweet sweet -15hp +3agi +3dex helmet (looks like a beetle wing)I saw in the auction house for 200k gil? If i can nab this puppy ill have total of +16 dex on me, dunno if thats still good or not
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            • #36
              Valkurm Emperor drops that headpiece

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Otaku~gamer
                Where is that sophia NM I keep hearing about that drops that sweet sweet -15hp +3agi +3dex helmet (looks like a beetle wing)I saw in the auction house for 200k gil? If i can nab this puppy ill have total of +16 dex on me, dunno if thats still good or not
                If your still 41, I think that's the best DEX you can get at the time and AGI to.
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                • #38
                  thanks guys, I'm having much better sucess rate now
                  locking on the tank definately helps

                  I still have trouble doing yokodama from the side because of those cones, but from behind the tank when the monster isn't looking, I can do pretty well.

                  one thing that has been brought to my attention though
                  Right now I'm a level 33 thief, I'm doing about 180 to 250 with viperbite depending on the enemy, my question is if that's average. I have 46dex and am a hume.

                  another thing I want to ask is, after I do my attack, the monster turns around and attacks my tank, but after one or two hits, the hate is gone. Is there anything I can do to keep the hate onto the tank while my job abilty is recharing?

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                  • #39
                    Your damage is average; Don't worry, you'll start to do more as you progress.

                    About keeping the hate on the tank, they only thing I can recommend is doing Back/Deceive Attack a little bit before you or someone else pulls a monster. If you time it right, you can do two Back/Deceive attacks back to back or within 10-20 seconds of each other.
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                    • #40
                      One thing I remembered: Tell your tank to stay face-to-face with the monster up close and avoid moving unnecessarily.

                      A moving tank makes yokodama setup too difficult. Having the monster close to the tank gives you the largest area to be successful.
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                      • #41
                        OH MY HOLY LORD ITS BERRY IN THE BACKGROUND!!!! Pops a berry in my mouth.

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                        • #42
                          I have tryed doing this an I dont understand it. I wish I had someone to show me how "ingame" or that I could talk to them over msn or aim. I'll keep reading this an try an understand it

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Zynk
                            I have tryed doing this an I dont understand it. I wish I had someone to show me how "ingame" or that I could talk to them over msn or aim. I'll keep reading this an try an understand it
                            If you can wait altitle bit longer..I'll take an in-game picture of how you should stand and so forth. <---I'm not in the beta.
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                            • #44
                              Well I think I'll just wait an get someone to show me in retail but if you want to take the time out an show me thats fine. If you do thanks a lot for the help.

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                              • #45
                                Thanks for the tips on how to do fuidama I still have trouble doing yokodama. I play using a japanese PS2. Could some tell me how to "lock on" the tank (commands for locking on) using the PS2 controller? I think Jeeb mentioned using the healing key. (uh, what exactly is this key :confused: )

                                Thank you in advance

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