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**Kagerou** · 11-08-2004, 04:54 PM

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**bbcradical_ed** · 11-08-2004, 06:11 PM

sadly you can not sleep/silence any demon, but the elemental pet can be slept.

The problem with THF tanking the first 30s is that the DRK and SMN might cast Ancient Magic/some SMN thingy...

You should,in my opinion, stick to healing/nuking.

Can't give advice on the other stuff, sorry ; ;, but I can tell you how mine went:

75pld
6? brd
60sam/thf
75sam/nin
74blm
60~whm i think

I med up BEFORE ENTERING BC! (Yes, TP was saved when I entered, so buff up to 300TP if the sam can before entering).

Go in, buff up. PLD ran in and gained hate from the 3 demons. As soon as we ran in, he was down to ~100hp. He got hit with Flare from BLM and a Fire III~ from the elemental, along with melee from all 4 of the mobs. He dies soon after we attack the BLM.

75SAM 2hrs the BLM if i remember correctly, basically killing it (the BLM nuking helped). We move on and I 2hr the next one. Melee this some and it dies. We move on to the last, where most is melee. He dies.

Was no strategy after the pld died =/ basically a free for all, trying to keep mages alive while killing mobs.

Remember to Sleep the Pet. Remember Warding Circle. Poison Potions aren't a bad idea either for Sleepga II he does.

Other than that...good luck <.<;

**Zempten** · 11-09-2004, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by LotusWing
check out Kyoujins awesome AF info guide here ^^

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/sho...4&pagenumber=1

I did, but that does not answer the questions I provided.

bbcradical_ed

Thanks, it's nice to know that TP can be stored before entering the BCNM. So basicially a few icarus wings would help, eh? ^^

**bbcradical_ed** · 11-09-2004, 07:21 PM

1 icarus wing per 1 hour? 2 hours?

can't use them again and again ><

Opo-opo necklace + potions 'might' work, I don't know. Nor have I tried Meditate > BC since the last patch, so I am not 100%.

But if you can get the sam to try it, why not buff to 100-300tp before? more money spent, but maybe an easier time

**Beiro** · 11-09-2004, 08:45 PM

My setup was something like this (Lvls may be off a bit)
60SAM/WAR
59SAM/WAR
60PLD/WAR
67RNG/NIN
75BLM/WHM
??WHM/BLM or RDM... can't remember ; ;

Basically the strategy was the 2 SAMs med up before entering the BC then wait for Meditate to be ready again. Once we were in we buffed up and one of the SAMs used Warding Circle and the BLM started the fight off with sleepga II (sleep woulda probably been better

). From there, the Paladin voked the DRK Demon and ran to the back of the BC, the BLM and RNG destroy the BLM Demon, and the 2 SAMs take on the SMN Demon and the WHM just stands in the middle and heals like mad.

The fight went really smoothly. Our blm and ranger duo tore through the SMN pet insanely fast then went to work on the BLM. Me and the other sam took down the SMN pretty easily with 4 WS + 1 Meikyo Shisui... plus a huge nuke from the BLM after she and the RNG took down the BLM Demon O_o. Then we basically all ganged up on the DRK. When the DRK uses his 2hour, the PLD NEEDS to use Invincible. But yeah, after we got to the DRK Demon our BLM didn't have much MP left, neither did the WHM. But our RNG, another Meikyo Shisui, and a few more nukes did the job.
From the start of the fight to the end was just about 2:45 I think. The cool part was that I had Rob Zombie - Super Beast playing during the whole fight ^^ And the song ended when we won haha... was cool...

But anyways, with your set up it looks like you might have a bit of trouble especially with a lvl 50 NIN. The DRK was hitting our 60PLD for a good 100+, so if the NIN gets hit he will most likely get torn apart pretty fast. I would also suggest putting a high level BLM or RNG in there if you can, you'll need the damage trust me.

And now to the questions >.>
#1 - RDM/WHM probably would be best. RDM/BLM if you dont have WHM sub, you'll need as much MP as you can get.
#2 - Can't sleep/silence the demons
#3 - No, but I'd suggest you take the BLM out first, SMN second, DRK third. BLM casts ancient magic, and SMN can use Astral Flow, so you want them dead fast.
#4 - Not sure if you HAVE TO kill the pet, but its not that hard and its what the SMN will use Astral Flow with, so I'd suggest killing it, or at least sleeping it until the end.
#5 - Sounds way too complicated for this fight. There's too much "should" in there. If something goes wrong with that plan it just seems like all hell will break loose and you'll all be picked off one by one. If you plannin on having a NIN though, I'd say let him drag the DRK away and tank him until the BLM and SMN are dead. If the SAM subs WAR and uses defender he shouldn't have too much trouble tanking the SMN or BLM (SMN doesn't hit all that hard, same w/ the BLM i think).
With your party I'd say, this is just using my experience, have the NIN tank the DRK, SAM tank BLM, have the SMN beat on you for a second or two (stoneskins, phalanx all that fun stuff u guys do) while the THF uses Icarus Wing or something and SA+Dancing Edge on the BLM THEN uses P.Dodge to hold him while everyone besides the NIN and THF kill the BLM or heal. Then move onto the SMN after the BLM is dead (Just make sure to kill or sleep the pet so he can't use Astral Flow on you). The SAM, DRK, THF, and RDM against this guy should do him in pretty quickly if the SAM uses Meikyo + a SATA dancing if possible. Then finally just go help out that poor NIN tanking that DRK w/ the huge ass scythe... and uh... hopefully that will get you the win

<--- Thats just the strat i would use with your setup, might work might not, but hey its an idea you can mess around with.
#6 - Not a mage, so I dunno O_o MP is always nice...
#7 - Well, the SMN didn't die after 4 Jinpus/Yukikazes and a Meikyo Shisui (More jinpus and yukikazes). It had about 1/4 of its life still after that... maybe a bit more?

Thats all I got... hope it helped. Damn thats a long post :sweat:

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