What do you think of SAM?

[lLagunal]

When i started playing FFXI for the first time, i had been desperate to get SAM.
I thought it would be a perfect job for me, as they are fast, powerful, good reflexes, and have cool techniques of their katana's skill. (If you watch anime, you should know how cool a sam is)
But i kind of disappointed at SAM in FFXI
In my opinion, they are slow, with terrible accuracy, moderate attack power , have high HP but terrible defense, little abilities.
I find it hard to join a pt past 40...
i think its because sam has optional role in a pt
the only thing sam good of is their ability to gain tp fast.
but due to their "excellent" accuracy, any other job can gain tp faster than them if we dont have 'Meditate'
Is triggering skillchain the only thing that SAM proud of?
What is actually the role of Samurai in ffxi???
now i understand why sam is one of the rarest job people chose.
Alexander server --> around 90/4000 sam players

please tell me what do you guys think of a sam?
are they worth to become a main job?
:dead:

P.S. I apologise for my poor english skill.

[EFigaro]

Speaking as someone that's played only support jobs for 200+ levels, Sam is a great bridge for me. It's fun for me to melee, and with Sam it's half damage and half support melee, so I love it. Granted I have a couple people in my LS I party with so it's easier for me to get a party.

As far as Acc issues...it's worse for Darks. Sure they get more things to boost Acc, but still.

And just be glad you're not a Dragoon. Most people on Fairy will invite a Sam before a Dragoon.

[dreadlord]

There isn't any other job execpt RNG which is gaining TP so fast. Look at the Renkai chart, in almost every skillchain possibilty there is a Great Katana WS.

It depends on how is your PT setup, there are jobs which work better together (regarding the SC3s) and others which don't fit that good. SAM and THFs for example won't be able to do a directly level 3 light renkai until the SAM gets Tachi: Kasha.

And if you spend a huge amount of money, a SAM can be a damage dealer too who gains TP very fast. SAM / THF can be good in controling hate above level 60, SAM / NIN is great for GODNMs (2 swords + fast TP gaining = Spirits Within). Every job has its good sides and bad ones.

On Odin almost every time there are only 1-100 SAMs online, never saw 100+.

Your job is as good as you play it and make it.
You can be a SAM which is godlike and will get 5 invites per hour or a SAM who is standing days and days waiting for a PT.

[mccoulick]

I find SAM a very great job. I think they work perfectly with a DRG, I really enjoy PTing with SAM/THF. I usually keep up with TP(sometimes get 100 before SAM) so we ready for renkei when its needed most not just close to the end. And since the SAM has THF SJ he can just sata on the tank. I find it that SAm is the best melee job 70+ because they can SC with anyone and they can either open or close if needed.

[FFXI NeWbIE]

Well it really depends on each person's choice.
I wanted to be SAM because i like samurai, i wouldn't find myself useless in a PT. Accept the fact that samurais aren't damage dealers in the sense that they are able to deal big damage per hit because we are the linkers. We can perform at least 2 SC per round, thats why SAMs are sought after in PTs.

[Lightfoot]

samurai eat, breathe and poop the SC. im doing about 3 ws per battle while everyone else is only doing one. im popping off Tachi: Enpi very quickly and it's there if anyone is charged up too.

Samurais dont deal damage in the way per swing way say a DRK or a ranger does. we use a bit more finesse and our strong point is DPS, damage over time. we are kinda liike the guy in vollyball who sets up the spike then somone else drives it home. there are a few thigns i was dissapointed about samurais too, i think they should be tanks, man to man sword to sword with the enemy but im very happy with the job i do.

wait till level 30 and you get meditate, whole diffrent ballgame. when i get invited to a pt now i somtimes get , "wow great a samurai" makes me feel good

[CarbonFibre]

Originally posted by Lightfoot
wait till level 30 and you get meditate, whole diffrent ballgame. when i get invited to a pt now i somtimes get , "wow great a samurai" makes me feel good

I haven't heard that line in what seems like an eternity

[Kagerou]

Originally posted by CarbonFibre
I haven't heard that line in what seems like an eternity

no one will say "Samurais" are good
They'll say UR a good Samurai

[CarbonFibre]

Originally posted by LotusWing
no one will say "Samurais" are good
They'll say UR a good Samurai

Haha, yeah I've heard both before. I can say the latter more than the former. Unfortunately, I haven't had any parties lately where anyone complemented any other person on their job performance.

[NeoForte]

Well seeing as we're from the same server, 90 Sams? I thought I saw more. Anyway the role of a Samurai? Like most already posted our role is to help perform all sorts of SC and gain TP fasterr than any job (aside from Rng). Trust me the anime Samurai are not what your gonna play as. We are slow attackers but given the right gear we can be good DDs. At your lvl, for Acc you should at least have a Federation Tekko (or Kotes if you got them for Attack) and/or Jujitsu Gi. That should take care of some of your Accuracy. Also you say we got bad def...well we sorta do but its enough to be a great Fuidama partner (Third Eye helps reduce one attack). Just keep on and eventually you'll get more PT invites. I went thru the same thing at your lvls.

[Nocturne]

I'm enjoying Samurai well enough. Even without Ohiudo's Kote (600k <No thanks.>) I do pretty decent damage (Have a Valkyrie's Mask though). I still get outdamaged by Rangers, but then again, who doesn't. And I still ahve the horrid habbit of making the monster turn from the tank. Perhaps that Valor Minuet x2+Mithkabob+Berserk+300% Enpi wasn't the "best" idea >_@; But it's fun as heck to play, and very stylish. I'm just drooling in anticipation of Tachi: Gekko lol
I do have two complaints though:
1.) The Great Katana market on the AH, on Odin it's teh suck, or I just have lousy luck, I'm almost 48 now and still no Odenta's for sale :mad: And the fact that the pricing seems to be erratic, one level 51. GK will cost you say 140k, but a level 55 GK with only slightly higher damage will be 20k, go figure :confused:
2.) And it's actually not that big of a deal, more abilities, I reckon we're fine as we are now, but maybe one or two active or passive's wouldn't hurt no-one

[Kagerou]

Originally posted by Nocturne
Perhaps that Valor Minuet x2+Mithkabob+Berserk+300% Enpi wasn't the "best" idea >_@;

lol I hope ur not actually storing TP all the way to 300% TP

[Nocturne]

lol, no, at least not all the time, this was just one of those times when I just had to see what would happen if I did max out my TP for weapon skill :3
Considering that was one pissed off Rumble Crawler... <No Thanks.> :dead:
Normally I just save up enough TP for my SC buddy to be ready, which lately has been Ranger, so much fun to be had there, and usually I'll throw on a Meditate and SC with the next person.
I wonder though, since i'm still fairly new at this is it possible to toss out a WS, using Meditate a split second before hand, and then hitting a second WS? Yeah, I know stupid question, but I'm trying to learn every little trick I can to make myself the best Samurai I can

[Kagerou]

One-man SC is possible but u have to be lucky+skilled in order to do so

have 80~90TP fire med
use WS immediately
wait for TP to store

couple of things that must happen (after u use med+WS)
-get hit once or twice
-strike right after ur WS ends (delay matters big time)
-not sure about this one but double attack might be needed

I was able to pull off one-man SC when double attack triggered

I would rather SC with other ppl, but being able to pull off one-man SC is pretty nice

There was a thread on self-renkei so check that thread out

[Kagerou]

Originally posted by lLagunal

I thought it would be a perfect job for me, as they are fast, powerful, good reflexes, and have cool techniques of their katana's skill. (If you watch anime, you should know how cool a sam is)

First off don't trust anime! Trust me probably lots of ppl chose whatever job+race cause of anime and ended up hating their job+looks. God if Samurais can pull off moves in animes like Rurouni Kenshin... holy shit

Originally posted by lLagunal
In my opinion, they are slow, with terrible accuracy, moderate attack power , have high HP but terrible defense, little abilities.
I find it hard to join a pt past 40...

Samurai aren't the only job that suffers from the problems listed above. Thats y u have to spend time and farm to raise ur stats. Its a pain in the ass but hell, its something that everyone have to deal with

Originally posted by lLagunal
i think its because sam has optional role in a pt
the only thing sam good of is their ability to gain tp fast.
but due to their "excellent" accuracy, any other job can gain tp faster than them if we dont have 'Meditate'

the only other job that can gain Tp as fast as Samurais are Rangers. (and any nin main or subbed job that has haste on )
At ur lvl there aren't much +acc equip that u can equip
so be patient till u hit 40+ (Sniper, Jujitsu, Lifebelt, etc)

Originally posted by lLagunal
Is triggering skillchain the only thing that SAM proud of?
What is actually the role of Samurai in ffxi???
now i understand why sam is one of the rarest job people chose.
Alexander server --> around 90/4000 sam players

please tell me what do you guys think of a sam?
are they worth to become a main job?
:dead:

The Samurai being rare thing really depends on server. And the role of the Samurai, u figure that out.

All jobs require dedication ^^
so be patient, and enjoy the game