What stats do SAM need to concentrate on?

[crispin]

I was wonderin what they should get on their armor and jewelry, i guess str is good for their dmg but i heard they miss alot, so is ACC+ the best or what? j/w, thanks for input

[Rodin]

Yes, acc equipment is the best for the samurai. Also, since not much armor for a samrurai has ACC other than the sniper's rings and the Master's Gi (or Jujitsu Gi) then try to get some ATT+ equip.

[Ghostraven]

acc > dex > Attk > str

Just my opinion.

[Rodin]

Yeah, I agree with Raven. (>_<) I forgot about DEX. Spike Necklace is a good piece of equipment too.

[Hisdon]

here's some things I feel a SAM in the late game would need...

-their AF gloves with those riceballs or an ochido's kote with mithkabobs
-haubergeon
-sniper's rings and life belt
-RK coller
-Amemit's Mantle
-Lightning Bow


just some example gear that many would probably agree on

[2.0]

Originally posted by Ghostraven
acc > dex > Attk > str

Just my opinion.

Then your opinion would be wrong. strength>>>>>>>>>>>>>dexterity. Hell it's more important than attack.

[Geo]

ACC > ATTACK > STR > DEX

[Mephisto]

Originally posted by 2.0


Then your opinion would be wrong. strength>>>>>>>>>>>>>dexterity. Hell it's more important than attack.

How can an opinion be wrong?:sweat:

[Hisdon]

Originally posted by 2.0


Then your opinion would be wrong. strength>>>>>>>>>>>>>dexterity. Hell it's more important than attack.

for a MNK...you see, you seem to misunderstand what each stat does...STR raises your max dmg, which would give you a wider range of dmg you could deal, attack is your avarage dmg...for MNK's, their range of dmg is low as it is, so they pump mostly STR to get the most out of those punches (they usually do...20-40 a hit?) Us other melee on the other hand, can do anywhere from 30-100+ dmg, that's a much larger range! Attack is more important to us to make sure we have an high avarage attack

[Gen]

Id have to aggree with dex being before attack or str..Sams have no problem hurting stuff when they hit..the problem comes in hitting..dex helps that ..

100, miss, miss, miss, miss is worse then 75 ,75, miss, miss, 75

[JayblahX]

for MNK's, their range of dmg is low as it is, so they pump mostly STR to get the most out of those punches (they usually do...20-40 a hit?)

You're JOKING, right? 20-40 per hit? I strongly suggest you stop partying with gimp Monks.

[Geo]

lmao, thats so true, MNKs that I PT with hit for like 50-60 ;(

[krycis]

Dex, unless you can stack the stuff like mad, wont help you in the way that just using ACC equipment will. If you're going to use DEX in the simplistic way of trying to improve accuracy, you're better off just going for ACC gear and stacking ATK or STR if you can't put ACC in a slot.

Early in the game, when you only have access to stat-ups, yes, use DEX equipment. When you finally get to the point when you can start dumping your hard farmed gil into ACC gear, I think a paradigm shift in focus should occur.

Once you meet a certain level of ACC that you find acceptable, DEX is moot. If you're hitting consitently enough, then you can move onto enhancing those hits with more damage (ie. STR/ATK). Of course there will be people that pine that every swing counts and TP is the king, but listen, you will miss and there's no guarantee that the 1 ACC for that fluorite ring would have changed the fact. Now, you do know that if you were to hit and do so for more, the extra damage would be sufficient evidence to justify the use of gear that provided you with that extra damage.

At this point I know people will be harping on me about accuracy and my so called ignorance at the requirement of TP accumulation, but I'm not eschuing the core of Samurai gameplay here. I'm simply stating that there are diminishing returns on your investment in DEX and ACC if you neglect to adhere to the fundamental view that Samurai are seemingly borne out of: balance. You must aslo balance your damage with your accuracy: the most accurate pea shooter is only as good as the bullets that hit the mark.

When you finally have access to such equipment as Haubergeon, Sniper's Rings and the rest of the ACC enhancing equipment, you'll invariably have slots that could better be used to enhance damage. To finally know what you need is to experiment.

Experimentation is my final point. Everyone seems to think that you must have certain gear before you head out into the nether. What you need to do is use that inventory space for something other than rock salt and earth crystals. Bring some STR rings, or some different gloves, and test out what seems to be the best balance of ACC and power. No one can guarantee 100% accuracy, so if you can be comfortable with your hit%, slap on those STR rings or those Ochiudo's Kote and see how you fare.

Naturally, due to the finite nature of wealth in FFXI, you can only do what your means allow and I would not call for anyone to alter their gameplay style simply at my behest. Play as you want, but don't disregard the possibilities that there are other ways to play.

Thank you.

[Funguwari]

DEX?

Now why would someone need DEX? The Accuracy bonuses in DEX is so small you can't tell.

Accuracy > STR > Attack.

DEX shouldn't be on the list.

[Darkedge]

I'm a Mithra planning on becoming a SAM as I near 30, and I know I've got the highest DEX by a bit, at least compared to Humes.

DEX?

Now why would someone need DEX? The Accuracy bonuses in DEX is so small you can't tell.

Accuracy > STR > Attack.

DEX shouldn't be on the list.

I know you're quite knowledgable, but does this mean as a Mithra I'm investing as much into ACC as the other races?