Why do you plays as a sam?

[Dashavi]

OK this is why i think Mithra make the best samurai

First the 3 reasons why i play games like this

1) To look sooooo cool
2) To do the most damage (preferably in a single attack)
3) To be the highest lvl possible or just higher than everyone else

Now as a samurai you wont obtain #2, just forget it >.<, and you can do #3 with any job. So why play samurai? For reason #1 of coarse, and in my opinion Mithras look the best in sam gear or sam/nin/monk gear.

For example:

[Dashavi]

and from another angle:

of coarse I'm just giving my opinion but I would like to know why everyone else plays as a samurai and see pics if you the other races look cool.

[frogurtx]

I don't really understand what your asking here. Are you saying sam isnt a good job because it can't do the most dps?

I don't play sam, but I would advise anyone to play one because they can increase the damage output of your party by hundreds of damage.

Because their GKT can renkei with almost if not every weapon, you can create multiple skillchains with everyone in your front line, leaving no one's tp unused. This leads to numerous powerful magic bursts from your mages.

Also another plus for sams are that they make great trick buddies with their third eyes, and help give the main tank a breather for a couple hits. Great for that Nin tank in your group.

[Dashavi]

i'm not saying sam cant do damage, they actually do alot but not the absolute most damage, so i dont play as sam because its the greatest damage dealer. I like sam and think it fun to play and looks really cool. I was just wonder why others played as sam and who they think make the best sam

[ZQM]

Any race can play SAM since it's so versitle.

Galkas - More of a tanking SAM
Hume - Best all around stats
Elvaan - Most Damage Output
Mithra - Most acc
Taru - So fucking cute. Anybody have a pic of a taru in JSE?

I personally think Mithra would make the best since you're role is TP, and you need ACC to get TP, though race doesn't make THAT much of a difference.

And I play SAM because skillchains are the funniest part of melee. I can't stand being a mage or support, I love tank but too expensive, so that left SAM. I also Gis and their JSE.

[krycis]

The whole Mithra have the best ACC is a myth. How much more Dex do they have at a corresponding level? It comes down to gear: if you have 2x snipers, a Jujitsu Gi, and Life Belt, odds are you're going to be hitting things. No matter what race you are, if you don't have decent gear....you just wont be hitting. Play what you think looks the best is where most people would put their chips and I'd put mine there too....but I still think that naturally higher STR races have a slight advantage, simply because they get that little boost when they and everyone else are maxing ACC gear (so they get comparable ACC, plus a little more punch).

As always, YMMV.

[ZQM]

Mithras are still going to have better acc if they wear the same +acc gear.

And Mithras can then stack up on +str/atk gear whereas everybody else is getting +acc gear.

[Enichi]

x_0 wth... damn u frogurt!!!!! u left me in the dust heh..... you're coming along with me to get my AF3 now!!!!!!

neways.........

the main reason why i played sam was cause it fun. Being able to work with any class to do good renkeis, part time tank, puller if u dont have one in the group, being a sneak/trick buddy for the main tank, etc. being able to do sooo much things in one package just sounded too tempting to pass up....


about mithra hitting more often with sam..... really like its been said in the earlier post.... pretty much comes down to equipment..... mithra with same equip will hit more, but dmg gonna be less.... switch a few things out for dmg item, your accy gonna drop heh....... really doesnt matter what race you are though once you have 2 sniper rings +1, peacock necklace, haubergeon.... might of misspelled that one heh...., the +dex earring (fairy earring i believe), and the new AF helm if you miss....

boy if missed, u should be pissed with all these stuff....

oh and remember this frogurt... that was just wrong what u did.....

[frogurtx]

I got so used to riding chocobos everywhere, saddling up on Jep was a force of habit... who knew a taru's back was so weak though. An no Enichi checking Jep's oil did not help.
:sweat:

Send me a PM when you do your AF3, i'll try to pencil you in


Btw, Enichi is the most uber sam evaaaaah!

[Ipwnzuall!!!111]

I like SAM because I think it's the funnest melee class to play, simply put. I still haven't decided which race I'll play when the PS2 release hits, but I will pick my character based on looks (I'm indecisive even about that, so I'll just wait til I pop it in and see what tickles my fancy).

"Galkas - More of a tanking SAM
Hume - Best all around stats"

For SAM, the only "all around stats" that really matter are STR, DEX, a little VIT, and maybe MND and AGI. Galka pretty much outranks human in every aspect of being a SAM (unfortunately).

As for the never-ending argument about Mithra/Elvaan, DEX/STR (an Elv with +ACC can get just as high as Mith... Oh, but Mith can always get higher... yada yada...), lets just lay it out.

Strength is a numerical stat. The more you have the more damage you do.

Dexterity (Crits excluded) and Accuracy are pass/fail stats. You either hit the mob or you don't.

Do you ever get 100% ACC? No, but Mobs with varying levels of agility/evasion might allow you to hit at 100%. It depends as much on the mobs evasion as it does your accuracy (likewise with STR and VIT).

In the end, you need to find the balance that will be most detrimental to the mob. If the mob has low evade, ACC is less important. If the mob has high evade and low def, it might be more important. Because ACC/DEX work on percentage, at some point, another +10 ACC might only improve your hit percentage by 2% against a given mob, certainly not out-weighing the need for +10 ATT, which will increase you damage numbers consistently.

In some cases, +10 ACC will do little to nothing. You have to find the point at which your +ACC isn't as valuable as +ATT in a given fight. Granted, you shouldn't be changing your equipment for every fight, but it's nice to have both a Sword Belt and a Life Belt.

In conclusion: The importance of +ACC/+ATT equipment often depends more on the mob you're fighting than the race of your character.

[imac2much]

Actually, you're wrong.

Melees should always focus on ACC over any other stat, even ATK if the bonuses are of an even quantity. Obviously if there's a +1 ACC compared to a +10 ATK get the ATK one, but if both are +10 , get the ACC regardless of how much you already have.

Melee's can never have enough ACC, which is why several melee's ask for 2 madrigals instead of madrigal+haste/minuet.

The whole 'percentage vs quantity' thing doesn't really work in xp parties. You will never be fighting monsters that have low evade, so you will still have a good chance to miss.... which is why you always want more ACC. The only time the monster will have low evade is when you have a BRD, but likewise if you think you are hitting enough you can ask the BRD to switch the 2nd Madrigal to March or Minuet.

And the whole "Mithras hit so much more than any other race omg r0x0r" is BS. Mithras will have maybe at most 8 or 10 more DEX than Elvaan at my level? 5 or so more than Hume? This equates to 2-5 ACC, which is not much of an impact. Madrigal with good instruments and skill supposedly add 30+ ACC.

Yes, Mithras can have more ACC than any other race, but at my level when an Elvaan has like +37 ACC from equipment, the additional +5 from Mithra won't really make much of a difference... and when compared to Elvaan's higher STR (higher max damage in addition to *slightly* higher ATK), it evens out.

[krycis]

Originally posted by ZQM
Mithras are still going to have better acc if they wear the same +acc gear.

And Mithras can then stack up on +str/atk gear whereas everybody else is getting +acc gear.

Yeah, yeah....Mithra pwn j00! Honestly, gear can make up for the lack of Dex. If a Mithra wants to go with STR gear, super. Pick what you want to look like, unless you want to powergame and be the "uber l33t pwnz3r of teh unaverse"!

[ZQM]

Originally posted by ZQM
I personally think Mithra would make the best since you're role is TP, and you need ACC to get TP, though race doesn't make THAT much of a difference.

I know it doesn't make a big difference, hence why I said it doesn't make much of a difference. Mithras has the most acc though, and a SAM's job is to get TP, NOT deal outstanding damage.

And do you see what race I am? A Hume, not a Mithra. I think it's obvious that I didn't pick a race on being the "uber l33t pwnz3r of teh unaverse"!

[Geo]

Mithra suck.
You are going to buy the same amount of Accuracy anyway, Elves still have 10+ STR more (I think).

[ZQM]

Originally posted by Geo
Mithra suck.
You are going to buy the same amount of Accuracy anyway, Elves still have 10+ STR more (I think).

I have +6 ATK, and it only adds a couple points of damage. 10 STR won't do that much more damage then a Mithra, just like a Mithra won't hit that much more then an Elvaan.

No race "sucks", they all perform almost the exact same. Only in some areas they have slight advantages.