Wasted Gil or Needed Items

[kevinsal]

YoYo,

Im running short on gil and there's so many things I need.

Most importantly being lvl 22 I am always at Qufim leveling. Do I really need to buy the map for 3,000 gil? I know my way around but will it be needed later down the road?

Also should i invest in the En-spells? (Enthunder, EnStone) All of them go for around 7k gil in th AH so I am reluctant to buy. Does it make a big difference?

Coming up, what are the things I will NEED as a RDM. I have Regen & Gravity.

Thanks for all your help.

Queo

22 RDM / 10 BLM

Siren

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[Faust]

Not that you really need those En-spells in Qufim, why would you buy them from the AH at those prices? Take the time and get them at Selb. Much cheaper. Unless it's one of those spells which are extremely hard to get, I wouldn't waste the gil on buying them from an AH.

[Lightseeker]

Re: Wasted Gil or Needed Items

Originally posted by kevinsal
YoYo,

Im running short on gil and there's so many things I need.

Most importantly being lvl 22 I am always at Qufim leveling. Do I really need to buy the map for 3,000 gil? I know my way around but will it be needed later down the road?

Also should i invest in the En-spells? (Enthunder, EnStone) All of them go for around 7k gil in th AH so I am reluctant to buy. Does it make a big difference?

Coming up, what are the things I will NEED as a RDM. I have Regen & Gravity.
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Don't bother with the en-spells until much later. After Qufim you will seldom be meleeing, as RDM becomes more about magic and less of a jack of all trades. You'll want to get all the nukes (thunder, etc) and be sure to get Sneak and Invisible -- those will be invaluable during quests and missions. Also be sure to grab the Cure and Protect spells as they become available, and Dispel at 32 is a must. Other than spells, focus on stat-boosting gear. Since I'm elvaan I focused on MP and INT gear, you might want to focus on INT and MND, depending on what you feel you're lacking. Also, don't worry too much about up-to-date armor. You'll seldom draw aggro (unless your tank is completely useless) and you'll want to equip a wand for the stat boosts. I have a wand for stat boosts, but I keep a sword as well -- if you're in a really good party you might have the opportunity to lvl up your sword skill. That's assuming you like swords instead of daggers. Oh, and forget the Qufim map. You won't be there for long.

[Silkiv]

Things you need/don't need in the upcoming levels and why

Things you should get Asap

Dispel
Many enemies buff themselves.
For example crawlers and their cocoon. Can make dmg dealers go from 70 dmg a hit to 10.. or 40 to 0. Same with beetles and their evasion boost. Same with blm undead and their ice spikes. Same with monster mages that cast blink and stoneksin..
This spell is important and if you don't cast dispel the meleers will translate |Dispel| and remind you..
Sneer at other rdm who don't have it.. the fun goes on and on :p
|Diepel| ok^^ in you party search gets you more parties.
May cost 63k-70k depending how your rabao fame is.

Refresh
Trust me you need this. 3k-6k on my server.
If you get this you don't have to be lfg to get party invites. It's that good.


Things you don't need or get as luxuary
All En-
In fact you don't need any of these yet. The only instance where you may wish you have more than 1 is if you farm elemental allot.. Enthunder does 0 dmg to thunder elementals, etc. Dispel and refresh get you parties, these do not.

Phalanx
This is a combination spell used with stoneskin. For me it lasts a lot shorter than stoneskin, but I've been farming creatures that are to weak to be worthwhile. So far it has not been worth 150k, but I also haven't soloed tough+ or NM that are even+.. it may be worth it in the future.


Things I would get before en- and phalanx
Spells like fire2 and haste. Version2 spells are cool if you enjoy magic bursting. Protect3 if for some reason there is no whm lfg.. at least you can cast on tank.
Mp, int and mnd equipment.

[kevinsal]

Ok great, thanks guys..

How about the Qufim map?

Queo

22 RDM / 10 BLM

[Rones]

3k gil is nothing. It will prove useful and save you time when trying to locate your party. Just buy all the maps you can, you have them for the rest of the game and any other jobs you lvl through qufim, so why do without it when you know you will end up bying it in the future anyway. You still need to lvl blm through qufim as well.

[Silkiv]

Maps are nice for some people. Quifim is easy easy enough to not need the map. Here is one you can print out and probably not need to buy. However in the future there will be places that you may want a map. Multiple floor dungeons floor dungeons for example.

Quifim map
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/ar...FIM_ISLAND.jpg

[Discordian]

I buy maps because other people don't and then I can guide them to where they need to go.

[AtraposBLM]

I only buy maps for confusing places like Yuhtunga jungle where having markers really makes a difference in how well you can get around. Most other places, I tend to memorize the route through them after going through 2-3 times, so I don't like spending gil on maps ; ;

[Tomoh]

Stupid people need maps. I purchased every map that I can buy.

[Gman]

Re: Wasted Gil or Needed Items

Originally posted by kevinsal
YoYo,

Im running short on gil and there's so many things I need.

Most importantly being lvl 22 I am always at Qufim leveling. Do I really need to buy the map for 3,000 gil? I know my way around but will it be needed later down the road?

Also should i invest in the En-spells? (Enthunder, EnStone) All of them go for around 7k gil in th AH so I am reluctant to buy. Does it make a big difference?

Coming up, what are the things I will NEED as a RDM. I have Regen & Gravity.

Thanks for all your help.

Buy a Quifim map when you can afford it... no big deal, but it's useful sometimes. You will only be leveling there until level 25, then you head to Yuhtunga Jungle.

I bought En-thunder as soon as I hit level 16. It's been invaluable for soloing and farming. I bought Enblizzard later on because I wanted variety, but theres no way I would dump the gil to buy them all. My advice is get one of them.

In the immediate future you will need:

Sneak (21) ~400 gil maybe?
Invisible (25) ~1000 gil

and in a few levels,

Protect II (27) ~7k
Cure 3 (27) ~ 5k

Start putting aside money for Dispel asap. I know it's a lot to save (65-70k) but it's a necessity. I actually had to stop leveling at 34 to save for it. ironically, I was one of the only RDM at that level who actually had it, but it's a nice feeling to know you are appreciated.

Refresh is really the ultimate spell though... parties will love you for it. Regains 3mp/3sec for 150 sec. Only costs 4k gil (about)

[Hopkins]

I bought Enthunder because I wanted a sword that went zap and it looks cool to cast when in a newbie zone.

The ONLY time it was every "useful" was when fighting elementals....and i realised they mitigate melee dmg so well and silence. Aside from that...they largely suck for parties....

Dispel i spent 4 days farming for. I got it and can cast it next level. I can't imagine why people wouldn't save for it.

Map of Quifim? Waste of 3k. Zone in follow tunnel to exp area. Want to goto Delfunky? Walk forward and left, then left then straight on and hey presto.

Lost? Type <pos> and look on a print out and use the grey matter and the compass. Maps are for places like Yoh....yo...whatever jungles.

Gravity is a handy escape measure. Elemental Seal (provided your BLM) Gravity and run from the goblin smithys :D

Addition: Saying "I dont have the money" is no excuse for crappy armour, spells and weapons in the eyes of many PT's. I agree, while ever there are newbie zones, there are bees and sheep. It's money on legs. Sieze it....look cool, hit hard, take more damage and cast decent spells.

[Gman]

Originally posted by Hopkins
I bought Enthunder because I wanted a sword that went zap and it looks cool to cast when in a newbie zone.

The ONLY time it was every "useful" was when fighting elementals....and i realised they mitigate melee dmg so well and silence. Aside from that...they largely suck for parties....

So you don't find that it's beneficial to do an extra 9 damage per hit to gobbues in Pashlow when farming? Or any target for that matter... For the measly cost of 12 MP I can kill that much quicker. Yes the sound is cool (I like the blizzard sound better) but the spell REALLY is useful. If you have crappy enhancing magic level, don't even bother. Mine is 104, so I do fairly good damage, although my enhancing should be almost 130 at my level.

Oh, and regarding using it in parties, if I am going to melee, I'll be meleeing with an en-spell. I stay back against AOE mobs like flies and gobs, but with crawlers, beetles, crabs I melee and en-damage makes me go from hitting 18-22 to hitting 22-31 per hit.

[Bamce Sylph]

"Gravity is a handy escape measure" gravity has an evasion down component which makes it easier for your melees to hit, so it should be used all the time

so long as u know where ur going skip on maps. i remember one time someone asked how to get to the tower in my group, and i xplained where maps were sold, he said he knew, but didn't have hte money, i said .....its 3k..... soon after he disbanded, no loss there for his /4 whm was uber

[Hopkins]

I dont farm Leeches I farm Bees. The en effect is useless for farming what i usually farm.

At lv 24 I found farming leeches in terms of downtime was inefficient compared to bees with regards to reward/time.

I havent tried since then so perhaps farming those now is something i should return to and try. Perhaps you are correct and it will be more effcient that farming bees/sheep etc.... But to be honest the amount of bee chips, honey and sheep stuff i get with treasure hunter still makes bees/sheep a more attatractive target for me.

When farming bees they die in 1-2 hits. The en effects lasts too short a time to be useful to me. So sorry but to me it's not useful to warrent shelling out the cash to buy the rest when there are more useful spells like DIA II which require buying.

I agree they have their place if farming NM's, then for sure I will value the extra 7 or so dmg per hit. But when killing a bazillion wasps, sheep whatever which are the mainstay of my income presently.....ill pass.

With Thief subbed I kill faster than when i had BLM subbed and dont really have to worry about the extra damage it brings.

But in the end, sure it's handy but not useful enough to fork out the cash. Regarding using it in parties, i don't bother.

The measly damage I do versus things like Mandragoas which basically evade almost every hit my elvaan dex dare throw is insignificant compared to the mana i regain not swinging isn't worth my time.

Ill probably get them all so farming elementals is that much easier. But for PT's...nah, im already seeing my melee is dropping off fairly significantly Vs Very Tough/IT's. Strikes me that hitting them and doing 15+9 dmg is just adding to the mobs TP and not doing enough dmg compared to the HP of the mob.

So inconclusion good for farming mobs with lots of HP. Bad for PT's I guess /shrug