Farm Where? Lvl 20 RNG

[Macht]

Originally posted by bolaber
Just because you can't get LL from 5 other campers doesnt mean other people can't and oh.. i know each person can hold only one rare item. Thats why i have a L boot now.. holding it for my friend until his boots sells.

"I think this guy is just full of it. Three to six hairpins in a day? You wish buddy."

lol.. this guys probably never got a pair of boots or a hairpin.. i feel sorry for him.

There is no need to be attacking people. Even though their comments may not of been nice to begin with. If you are planning to make a debate out of this then you need to provide evidence of your claim. Following my previous display and rating it at Lizzy's Best, saying that Lizzy spawns every hour then in 1 whole day you get 24 chances. Again measure it as 1/4 being drops then in 1 day going at that very best you get only 6 drops. In order for you actually get all those not only would you have to beat the rest for each of the actual drops, you'd also have to be insainly lucky to get those drops 6 times in a row otherwise you spent over 6hrs in that area.

On top of this you need 5 other sources for these boots to go or be held. The final factor you have to measure in is the time it takes to sell. They could end up taking you many earth days to sell just 1, a week or even more. Ultimatly if you really want to make money fast at lv. 20 the ideal way would be to form a Farming Party. With 2 - 6 other people killing a monster they see seperate of eachother in the same zone. Any monter with a decent stackable items should get the entire party loaded with items in no time to sell.

Really just depends on the players prefference, would you preffer to sit there and race 5 - 10 other people to it. Or would you rather have a party were you're actually moving doing something, and while you're offing those easy monsters have people to talk to and joke with. In the end the potential money you make is fairly similar if 1 method isn't actually more.

I myself mix them both giving NM hunts a lesser importance, so for NMs that have a 1 - 3 hr spawn I'll tend to visit it every 3hrs. The 2hrs in-between I'll be killing any and every easy I find that has a worth selling drop. This way I have made 2 Leaping Boots to sell, 8 stacks of silk, 1 Beast Signia, 4 stacks of bat wings, 2 stacks of onions, 4 stacks of Fire Crystals, 6 stacks of Wind Crystals, and a few other I can't recall off the top of my head.

In the end once it all sells I'll have approx. 1.3 mil...So far almost everything has sold with the exception of the Leaping Boots and the Signia. Seems that there isn't enough people that have the money to buy all that yet, or that want to buy it. The stack items pratically all have sold, selling the stacks is definatly a faster method of making the money you need.

[Zyuu]

um... you guys know you can put rares on AH and go get another one... right?

not defending anything but I think a few ppl are missing this in this thread

[Trimpton]

Still the fact is you cant farm those NM's at 20.

And hes lying. Anyone knows that the drops off those mobs are rare at best, and to say you would get 3-6 a day on a 1-2hr spawn is absurd. Fact is youd be lucky to get one a day. To get 6 pins logically you would have to get EVERY spawn that pops in a 12 hour period and have every single one drop.

Why even argue he cant hold more than 1 rare (Even though it is posslbe to put it on the AH and go back)... because I dont even believe the first half of his story.

[AtraposBLM]

he also makes the assumption that he will win the spawn EVERY SINGLE TIME for a 24 hour period. Nobody is that good. End of story. And no, you're not guarenteed at least one spawn a day. If you were, there would be a lot more than 1 or 2 boots on the AH per day.

Look at the adaman ore market - you're not guarenteed a drop of adaman ore even if you spend the whole day doing nothing but mining in infrit's, and yet on Midgardsormr, there are well over 30 ore's currently on the AH. What happened to the price? It tanked.

There's a reason why the boots/hairpin are worth so much - they're rare as all hell. At very best, you have between 6 and 12 spawns per 24 hour period to get your drop. Assume you're a lv45+ thf (Treasure Hunter II), and 1 in 3 kills nets you a hairpin/boot. That means *at best* you made 2-4 of ONE of these items. This goes with the assumption that you don't miss any spawns, claim every single one, have the space to sell/carry all this crap, and beat the 5-10 other people camping it EVERY SINGLE TIME. If it were that easy to do, the market of these things would plummet, and we'd see alot more up for sale.