melee damage

[wyzat]

aside from bows and guns how well can ranger melee for?....or are they only bow reliant....?


also...probably not a good main job for a noob?

[greysenn]

You melee like inaccurate thief with a crappy weapon as you get further from 28. I'm don't even think it's worth it for TP, as you miss so much any gains you get are lost damage you could've done shooting in the long run.

Your ranged ACC rings really put the hurt on meleeing. It's basicly good to melee enough to get skill up, then stand back out of AE range

[wyzat]

i heard that black mages can do more damage in a short period of time (complelty rape something extrmely fast in an emergency or somehting) than rangers but ranger do more damage over time right?

what else as a ranger do you do? all ive seen is the ranger stand off at a distance, pull bow and arrow out of his ass then shoot and put it back stand for a bit then repeat. and i see the black mages chain nuking....

[greysenn]

Damage between the 2 at my level is pretty comparable from what I've seen.

Blm's definetly hit heavily armored targets for more and hit the high evasion targets more consistantly, but realisticly the amount of damage you can do is limited by hate... so a lot of your high damage classes are doing similar amounts over time.

That being said, I have yet to see a blm outdamage me in a panic situation. (WS, Barrage, WS, 2 hour etc)

[obsidian]

If you are any kind of decent ranger you will be using an Archer's or Hawker's dagger up until you can get a fransisca. This means that from level 28/30 to 63 you are using an 11 damage dagger. It isn't even worth trying to engage in melee especially since you should also be wearing rings giving you -10 melee accuracy or more.

[voodoo]

melee damage is insignificant (without fransica at least) but you should still go and melee the target for extra TP gain, it really does help.

In my set PT I usually have about 110-130 TP by the time our thf has 100.
But the other day i got Francisca to replace one of my archers knives (i sub nin) and only have 70-odd axe skill, so it hardly ever hits - and my TP gain is now about 70-100 by the time our thf has 100 - so you can really feel it.

[Xarndelius]

Comparing Black Mages and Rangers are kinda silly .

Rangers kill weak armored, high magic res.
Black Mages kill strong armored, low magic res.

I played with a well equip ranger for the first time last weekend, it was very neat. We where fighting bats and I'd have to say from my lvl (39) we where fairly even match (i'm not going to add the numbers from the log and check). But when he used his two hour along with something else..yea he smoked me.

Black Mages are apples, rangers are oranges, really can't compare the two.

[wyzat]

would being a hume in either job decrease damage so noticably its not worth it and hard to get groups?

[greysenn]

No, Hume performs respectably in all jobs.

[wyzat]

good,

just seems when it comes to picking a black mage tarus are the first pick wich kidna sucks if i anna play a hume black mage some day

[poweryoga]

i usually try to melee for some additional TP.... and it seems that it works out pretty well as i miss just as much as our melees in the front line, plus i shoot the bow every swing.

[Sinzer]

BLM + RNG in a group = Dead mob in double time.

No point comparing, you want these two jobs in a group

[wyzat]

when it comes to high end mobs, such as ones with high evasion wouldnt mages be more effective seeing as how the ranger would miss allot?

with TP meter full ona ranger, deosnt the ranger have a major damage boost over a blackmage?


one more...

At higher levels how much more damage would a ranger tend to do over a drk

[FeralisCallidus]

The low-accuracy ring problem can be easily remidied by having two sets of rings.

When meleeing, use dex+ rings or something.

When you fire, use HQ RngAcc+ rings.