RNG after level 60

[McClane]

I'm starting to wonder if sam sub wouldn't be better then war now that I am 60+

After I got sidewinder I'd like to use it every battle in a renkei but that's getting harder and harder, cause sidewinder often need 150-200+ tp and I dun get that before the mob is almost dead ^^

In most 4 melee, and 2 mage pt's it really rocks, but when I do the normal 3 mage, 3 melee pt's there are often a rdm/whm/blm and 2 damaging melee's so I can't get enough tp to use sidewinder every battle ><

The thing I wanna know is when I sub sam if the dmg gonna drop alot? sure I can use sidewinder more often but if I do much less damage with normal attacks and sidewinder it's maybe not worth it, anybody know this?

Also I noticed now that drk gets guilletine and thf dancing edge they come very close to rng damage, at least with ws's/renkei
My last pt I heard the blm say that the thf did 900 dmg on IT with 600 renkei dmg, so that would be 1500, is that possible? I haven't seen a thf do it yet O.o
And the drk I pt'ed with did also good dmg, but I think we can do around same amount dmg, or I can just beat him ^-^
The thing is I'm a little worried if I will get any invites cause if thf and drk can do the same amount of dmg, a rng would be a bit useless cause he can do the same dmg but also miss
I still use lvl 40 arrows and not the lvl 60 ones cause they are 11k a stack >< (and I dun wanna spend 200-300k on 1 lvl) maybe that can make a big difference, dun know
Before lvl 60 I was always the best dmg dealer in pt and most, if not all, pt's were happy to invite me cause I did nice dmg
Is this gonna change after 60, do rng's get a bit useless or is it just that I'm having a bad day? :D

[Fourinkmaaya]

it's all about the hasting!
and don't worry about invites, i don't care that you miss 80% of your sidewinders i'll take your gimped ass in anytime. ^^

ps. you still owe me 120k! ;P

[qweezy]

I'm starting to feel it too. Other classes can keep upgrading thier weapons, while we're stucked with the gimp ass lvl 50 War Bow +1, and scorpion/elemental arrows. Even the richest won't be using demon arrows, you're looking at about 200k gils per lvl if you use these. I'm still trying to save for a Eurytos Bow, it'll probably take another month or two b4 I get it =/. Drgs have like a lvl 60, 80 dmg 470 delay Lance, I mean wtf throw us a bone in the weapon/ammo department.

The key is to always group with Great Axe Warriors or/and Bards, I hit 90% of my shots with them in group, so I don't have much prob gaining TP. And yea, once Thf gets Dancing Edge, they can compete with us for dmg. As for DRK I haven't been impressed with them yet, but they make good renkei partners if there isn't a Thf around .

60+ onwards, there isn't much to look foward as a Ranger... no new weapons, no new skills, no new weaponskills worth mentioning....but I'm still having fun, so I guess thats the only thing that matters .

I'm fine with them making Eurytos Bow the most powerful bow, but damn at least throw us some better arrows that won't cost an arm or leg :sweat: .

[voodoo]

well, firstly you should invest in a single stack of demon arrows, and setup your macros to use these on reneki with unlimited shot. but only use them on renkei (it should up the damage some).

secondly, I think what that guy said about the THF is BS - or maybe they were fighting a tsuyo~tote (tough, VT), cos that damage has to be very very unlikely on a totetote (IT).
Not sure if 900 vs IT is possible at this level.. Mebbe against skimmers at 63~64 it'd be doable.

Starv - who has uber EQ - usually does between 500~700, sometimes 800. simmilarly my sides do about 600-800 sometimes more if I'm lucky.
600 reneki add on could be possible. We got a 500(odd) renkei add on against perytons (or raptors) one time, but it's not exactly common.

but yah, the bow thing sucks, as do the cost of demon arrows - but that's life ~_^

anyway, short answer; rng is still the most damaging class, you just gotta pay more for the priviledge now.

[Narru]

Would upgrading to guns be better for Rangers level 60+?