Galkan Paladins

[whattevaman]

I'm a big fan of Galka's and I like the fact that they aren't that common. My goal is to become an almighty Galkan PAL/WAR.
I heard for the longest that Galkans make the best Paladins, but I heard recently that they have a problem defending/protecting because they have low MP. I understand that this means they gain less hate because they can't heal as often. My question is, does this mean that elvaans make better paladins overall? It probably won't mean that much in my final decision. Also, is it a way to get around this particular problem? Thanks in advance.

[Bousch]

You'll do fine

Galka and Elvaans make the best PLD/WAR hands down, Galka's being the best in my opinion but some may say otherwise.

In Pt's you wont be doing the curing cause they'll be a WhM there.

Don't worry about not being able to generate "hate" cause the Warriors taunt is the most effective hate generater in the game.

Casting the limited buffs the paladin has won't hurt your MP as well.

There really is no problem and your making a good choice.

[IleDeusMorpheus]

Yeah, basically an even trade-off. A little less MND for a little more buffness. It all works out in the end.

[DBurks2818]

PLD/WARs have the 2 of the most effective hate generators in the game in Provoke and Invincible, only the WHMs Goddess Blessing comes close to those.

[Ultimate]

The Elvaan PALs are better in there atack (the best) and they also have more MP so they can cast more spells, but they have less HP and VIT. I think the Elvaan are better.

[UnnamedGalka]

Re:

The Elvaan PALs are better in there atack (the best) and they also have more MP so they can cast more spells, but they have less HP and VIT. I think the Elvaan are better.

Hmm...since Paladins are meant to be tankers, attack and MP is not as important as HP and VIT. I'm gonna say that Galkas edge out the Elvaans in this job.

[Ultimate]

You can see it like that but if tankers have more MP to cure themselfs they would resist more time, and a PAL hasn't a good STR for nothing...
Also, a party searches for a pally not just as a tanker, but also a white mage to cast support magic in their team.

[Sirius Black]

Originally posted by Ultimate
You can see it like that but if tankers have more MP to cure themselfs they would resist more time, and a PAL hasn't a good STR for nothing...
Also, a party searches for a pally not just as a tanker, but also a white mage to cast support magic in their team.

Well in that case Elvaan are beat out by Taru Paladins

[Ultimate]

Originally posted by Sirius Black


Well in that case Elvaan are beat out by Taru Paladins

Taru paladines are the worst! The only thing they have better from the Elvaan is MP (and CHR, but it doesn't affect the PAL).
It wodn't serve, neither as a tanker nor a strong phisycal atacker.

[UnnamedGalka]

Re:

You can see it like that but if tankers have more MP to cure themselfs they would resist more time, and a PAL hasn't a good STR for nothing...

Yes, it is nice that a Paladin has WHM powers so you can heal yourself...but in an ideal party, this really should be used only in emergency situations (ie when the White Mage(s) are beginning to run out of MP). Galkas do have just enough MP for this kind of emergency useage.

Also, a party searches for a pally not just as a tanker, but also a white mage to cast support magic in their team.

I respectfully disagree with you here. A Paladin really should not be counted on as a White Mage. Their main purpose is to stand toe-to-toe with the enemy and soak up the damage that would have otherwise been inflicted on the frail mages. And in return, the White Mage will heal the noble Paladin when his HP starts getting low.

Taru paladines are the worst! The only thing they have better from the Elvaan is MP (and CHR, but it doesn't affect the PAL).
It wodn't serve, neither as a tanker nor a strong phisycal atacker.

Now I totally agree with you on this. Tarus simply do not have the HP to survive in a Paladin tanking job. Against the higher level monsters, he would be struck down before he'd even have a chance to start healing himself.

[Sirius Black]

I was just kidding, I was being a punk about elvaan. Because if you need to take hits the Galka are better than them like he said but then you were saying they need magic and at THAT a Taru would kill the Elvaan. So I was just kinda dissing Elvaan. if you want STR choose Galk if you want MAG choose Taru. (not serious Elvaan make great PLD just giving you shit for trying to build up elvaan there are enough of them already not enough Galkas)

[Ultimate]

Originally posted by UnnamedGalka


Yes, it is nice that a Paladin has WHM powers so you can heal yourself...but in an ideal party, this really should be used only in emergency situations (ie when the White Mage(s) are beginning to run out of MP). Galkas do have just enough MP for this kind of emergency useage.


I respectfully disagree with you here. A Paladin really should not be counted on as a White Mage. Their main purpose is to stand toe-to-toe with the enemy and soak up the damage that would have otherwise been inflicted on the frail mages. And in return, the White Mage will heal the noble Paladin when his HP starts getting low.

Like you said first, the PALs can be usefull with their white magic in a party, even if it is in a state of emergency... If a party (or an alliance) is full of PALs, they can be used as WHMs, since they are many, when 1 runs out of MP, the others still can cast their own.
But... It's not very probably that a party has that many PALs (it's most probable in an alliance, but you would have more to cure on the other side, so...it woudn't make difference). In many people playing in the servers theraren't that many pallys comparing with all the others.

Originally posted by Sirius Black


I was just kidding, I was being a punk about elvaan. Because if you need to take hits the Galka are better than them like he said but then you were saying they need magic and at THAT a Taru would kill the Elvaan. So I was just kinda dissing Elvaan. if you want STR choose Galk if you want MAG choose Taru. (not serious Elvaan make great PLD just giving you shit for trying to build up elvaan there are enough of them already not enough Galkas)

We can't guess when you're kidding or not...
Elvaan are stronger than galka, in their STR but not in their VIT.

[daigoro]

Taru, Galka.....it doesnt really matter in the end.

Taru equips more +HP items
Galka equips more +MP items

The #1 job of Paladin (imo) is hate control. You have to get the mons in position and keep it there. This simply cannot be done with just your Job Abilitys.

Taunt = 30 seconds
Sentinel = 5min
Rampart = 5min
Shield Bash = 5min

...thats too long between provokes. You have to get a cure in there every 10-15 secs, especially at the beginning of the fight.

Taunt > cure 2 > cure 3 > taunt > cure 2..etc After a while you will have the mons under control, so you can slow down on the cures and just hold with taunt. If that mons goes after the mages or gets out of position for your thief or /thief your PT could be in a mess.

Sometimes you dont even have the luxury of using taunt to provoke the mons. In a link situation, you must hold the one the PT is attacking with just cures and other JA (if available) while using taunt to keep the linked one(s) from attacking your mages. Alot of PTs the other attackers sub thf, sam, nin, etc so your the only one that can.

Paladin certainly is not seen as a WHM, most of the time our cures are used only to generate hate. If your doing your job well the only time other PTs members should need curing is after an area attack.

HP, VIT, DEF are important for a Paladin but balancing that with enough MP (either from stats or equips) to do your job effectively is vital....imo~

-daigoro

[Ultimate]

Originally posted by daigoro
Taru, Galka.....it doesnt really matter in the end.

Taru equips more +HP items
Galka equips more +MP items

...???...???????!!!!!...
Sory!?
HP and MP are the only things that matter...:p

...

I'm no race, paladin, 0 all status and...
2000HP!!
and
1000MP!!

Just kidding...