When to switch to +VIT rings?

[Arximiro]

A plds damage dont suck. Where do ppl get this from. If you have a good PT u dont even need defender. therefore you hit for 30 or so on average. Its also very easy to ws for over 200. Also the dmg helps with hate. Saving up a Spirits Sithin for 3 battles and using it to get that 4th chain or 5th by hitting for over 500 is surely worth it. And after 60 Plds can be in most SC's Because Vorpal Blade owns. Staff is just good for tanking HNM's thats just about it.

[Biterman]

Originally posted by Arximiro
A plds damage dont suck. Where do ppl get this from. If you have a good PT u dont even need defender. therefore you hit for 30 or so on average.

I umm...hit for 10-17.
I mean, this when everyone and their little sister is hitting for 100+. A galka PLD on my LS once said he sometimes hit for a flurry of big fat zeros, but he likes to use Defender.

BTW, been a while since I seen you around man. I am still lvl 50 and you 59.. ; ;
I stop to farm about 1 million, help ppl on my LS with quests/RSE/et al and lvl some crafts and everyone uber surpasses me.:sweat:

[Arximiro]

If you have a good pt you dont need defender, I dont get hurt enuff the without it cuz the whm in our sp keeps me too healed. i usually atk for 35-40 without defender. I jus got vorpal blade which is awesome. Ive atked for 750 with it. Its awesome cu the crit rate varies so greatly. the first time i used it on an IT crab we were fighting with 127 tp or something like that. for 345 which is good for a pld IMO. Also if u flash then zerk u can get good ws dmg then cancel zerk b4 the flash is gone. After i get gluttony hopefully my dmg will be more.

[Jaxon]

I'm a elv paladin my accurancy blows, to me every hit I land with is vital in order to generate some hate and keep up with renkei if need it in a party who wants to make darkenss skillchain with me. Dont get me wrong, I like gluttony for a while now and plan on using it with my pld/nin soon as my pld hits 75. Yes, I do notice I can join renkei a lot faster with espadon+1, yes 40-50 delay difference dont mean that much to some, but I'm a picky thats just me anyways.

[evilution]

FYI.. after countless level's of PT's with paladins parsing the damage logs..

PLD do on average...

200-400 damage a fight (parsing from 68-74) on rare occasion a 500 or 600, but usually around 300.

[foobar]

Vorpal Blade sucks against exp mobs. You hit for less than 10 more often than you'd think on mobs that don't even have a defense buff. Its all about the renkei.

[Arximiro]

VB seems to have different rate of Crit dmg, we were fighting crabs and pugils in terrigan and I had defender on since it was a pugil and used VB in the renkei for 356, Over half the time my VB outdmged the drks VS Ive only seen it under a 100 a few times.

[kedo1]

Wow, I don't know what kind of equipment u have, but Vorpal doesn't give me that much dmg to a IT mob.

100-200 top. Also, it all depends on if all hits connect. @ lvl 67-69, if I don't participate in Renkei, I would choose to use Sprit within. While keeping defender up and running, I can still deal 150+dmg per 100%TP.

I use to go without defender when I exp, but lately I found out that defender helps a lot for down time. Less dmg taken, less ur mages have u heal u. Even with bard + rdm, its always a good idea to keep up ur defense. Especially if u want good exp, than u would fight IT mobs with high defense+high evasion. Chain 4-5 will give u 230-280exp.