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  • poor rushed ninja

    Is it safe to say that the ninja was thrown into the game prematurely so that SqSo would have 4 new charaters in the expansion instead of 3 (im mean the duel wield system they got going from, what ive heard, is completely pointless) and, more importantly, that we wont see the true power of the ninja until the next expansion? anyone care to put in their own guesses about the weakness of the ninja?

  • #2
    I believe it's not so much weakness as it is lack of any real advantage...I mean, come on...even a mere dual wield delay reduction would balance it out more...

    Kynósoura :: 新しい犬星 :: The unfiltered meanderings of djplaeskool

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    • #3
      I agree it's a work in progress that will be "fixed" within the year

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      • #4
        Ninja is already pretty powerful and useful already if you know how to use one. I really see no point why people call them weak job at all....

        my PT last night was Ninja PLD THF(me) and WHM BLM RDM .... we get over 12,000 EXP in less than 3 hours.

        use ninjutsu to lower resist for renkei.
        use ninjutsu to double image before call.
        ninjutsu is really a great tool. the person playing ninja just gotta have the money to spend on them (levelling a ninja can be even more expensive than rangers i think...)

        the point is, let the ninja use katana. most PT around have ninja hold a sword in right hand for red lotus instead of holding 2 katanas. which weakenned the ninja quite a lot....
        There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
        but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
        transform a yellow spot into the sun.

        - Pablo Picasso

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        • #5
          hmm...guess it takes time to get it high level to exploit their advantages...

          unfortunately...not too many people have gotten ninja that high...I guess they have trouble leveling it and give up...:sweat:

          It's tough to level...almost as tough as THF...

          Kynósoura :: 新しい犬星 :: The unfiltered meanderings of djplaeskool

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          • #6
            THF is easy to level up.... what are you talking about?

            every PT are willing to have 1 THF. The toughness for THF is that sometimes there's too many THF lookiing for PT.... and 1 PT doesn't want 2 THF. They want 1 THF.

            jobs that have the same toughness with THF are Paladines and Rangers ...
            no PT wants 2 PLD or 2 RNGs.... they want just 1 PLD 1 RNG.

            as long as there's not too many people playing the same job at your same level, getting PT is pretty easy
            There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
            but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
            transform a yellow spot into the sun.

            - Pablo Picasso

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            • #7
              ...hmm...
              I found it toughest to lvl THF out of any of the jobs I have...but I guess I haven't tried PLD or RNG yet...blah...

              Kynósoura :: 新しい犬星 :: The unfiltered meanderings of djplaeskool

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              • #8
                proably because i played RDM before. all other jobs seem easy to get PT for me nowadays...

                RDM pre-patch = 2 weeks would pass by without PT call at all. not only I have to pray there's no other RDM competitors, I also gotta pray there's no other WHM BLM or BRD at all
                There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
                but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
                transform a yellow spot into the sun.

                - Pablo Picasso

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                • #9
                  Thf is hard to solo.
                  Defence is very poor, similar to RDM
                  War sub can counter this a little, but its still hard to solo especially 1-14
                  Just a tip, lvl knife AND grapple, knife is better for soloing, grapple is a really poor weapon for a Thf, just good for Renkei
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                  • #10
                    i agree with jei... i don't see why ninja is called weak.... like i said before, i find myself sometimes doing more dmg than other tanks... i use 2 katanas and nothing else... my pt requirements are so strict not much pt's have taken me in... but yes, i do think that there is something that can be done to make us ninja... stronger. whether it be a duel wield delay reduction or a "no need to use powder for ninjutsu" addition...

                    oh, and the pt'ing.... it's hellacious... nin is definately harder than thf... but we all seem to forget how horrible it is for those poor bsts ... ;;;;;
                    Vivid [Starbright] 忍61|シ46|狩31|戦28

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                    • #11
                      ninja is powerful
                      what do u thing of wor/nin + berserk skill str+15 and lvl20+
                      30+ damege and 30+ damege = 60^^
                      and guess what u can do 4 swords it in a row!!!
                      30+30+30+30 = 120!

                      but square need to fix the accurety(focus) ....even with dex+6 i have a horrible misses!!!!
                      Heaven Or Hell...LETS ROCK!!!

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                      • #12
                        Hey....i hear dual wield cancels itself out sort of. You hit twice but for double the delay time. Is this true? Also since you could dual wield you could have like a +(#) (stat) weapon and another
                        +(#) (stat) weapon? Or are there no +(#) (stat) weapons?

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                        • #13
                          They should make Dual Wield do 1/2 damage but hit 2x as often...

                          I think this would be the way to go. But hey, I've never actually played the class before, so what do I know?

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