what should i do!?

[Zanar4]

i want to pick either of these jobs but i dont know which to pick. I want whichever one will give me the most diverse and strategic battles. Not mostly the same stuff all the time. So which is it? im a tarutaru by the way so take that into consideration.

NIN/WAR-i can blink tank, but i feel like that would get repetitive

NIN/THF- cant blink tank but i can pull and have better dex

DRG/WHM- get to have white magic with melee and wyvern. I know its a very risky combo but im jus askin.

jus wanna do sumthing to make battles more exciting and more strategic than just doing things over and over

i appreciate any help thank yoU!!

[ZQM]

Re: what should i do!?

Originally posted by Zanar4
NIN/WAR-i can blink tank, but i feel like that would get repetitive

You can do more then blink tank. Don't limit yourself to just tanking because you have /WAR. With shirokens, Ninjitsu, and elmental weapon skills, you can do a lot more and be a lot more useful.

NIN/THF- cant blink tank but i can pull and have better dex

Any class can pull, and it's not a huge dex addition. THF/NIN tends to be a hell of a lot better.

DRG/WHM- get to have white magic with melee and wyvern. I know its a very risky combo but im jus askin.

This isn't the DRG forum

I'd imagine this would be great before 25 since you'll mostly party with noobs and "verterans" who act like ones. Once you hit kazham though, most people learn the game by then. Also, DRG is a melee class; not support. If you're in a party without a WHM and a NIN tank, you could help heal will Utesumi runs out...but BRDs, BLM, and RDMs can do it a lot better and most likely in your party anyway.

jus wanna do sumthing to make battles more exciting and more strategic than just doing things over and over

This is FFXI, it's all the same thing

Ninja is probably the least repetive, since you have to focus A LOT on keeping hate, so I suggest you go NIN/WAR if you want to focus more on tactics.

[Zanar4]

thank you so much that was the exact thing i needed to see. I appreciate it thanks! im guna be a NIN/WAR

[ZQM]

The main problem with /WAR is that you need lots of money, otherwise it's just blink-provoke-blink, ect. You need to buy the Ninja Tools, Shirokens, Scrolls, ect. Unless you have a steady cash flow from your current job, be prepared to farm alot. :sweat:

[Kiyosuki]

Yeah, Ninja's one of the most gil heavy jobs in the game, right along side Ranger. No matter what sub combo you use its going to be expensive, because of the high amount of Ninja Tools you'll be using no matter what. Its a pain, its a price we have to pay. :sweat:

[Zanar4]

that is a worry of mine, im not big on farming, so it makes me think of this.

THF/NIN-maby i can get money pretty easy, still use some ninjitsu at lvl 30+ and i can use dual weild.

could this work for me? and still be fun?



hehe im a tarutaru

[Kiyosuki]

Ya know I'll tell you right here, one of the biggest pains of this game is gil. No matter what job you choose gil is going to become some kind of factor at one point. Thief Equipment can get really expensive, just like most of the other high level equip so no matter what you'll be gil farming a bit. But if you really don't want to have too much trouble keeping up with a constant use of gil and still want to be a speedy duel wielder than Thf/Nin may be the best bet for you. When it comes to the choice between being Nin main and Thief main, it comes down to weither you want to be Ninja to be a Ninja, or weither you just like the gameplay style of being a sneaky assassin. If you like the latter more than Thief gameplay is much more suited to that. And for your situation, it'll be cheaper since although having Utsusemi and all the other Ninjutsu you can use (mostly Ichi) will set you far apart from other Thieves who don't have these, you'll use them at a much smaller rate. With Nin main no matter what job combo you use, War, Thf, Rdm, whatever you'll be spending a lot of gil so its unavoidable.

I tried Thief/Ninja for a while myself and I have to say it was really fun, the two combo's in this order go together so perfectly well its not even funny. The right use of Utsusemi can make you nigh untouchable if hate ever goes your way plus you have the highest evasion rating of all the classes. Agility and Dex also go into how much damage Trick+Sneak does so it'll be pretty high. Thief Fuidama (tricksneak) Damage often rivals the heaviest hitter's in the game with pure, unadulterated one hit damage. And your critical hit rate is higher to so it really is a deadly combo, it needs proper placement in a party though but when its in a party it works well in, it can really turn the tables in combat.

But for Ninja, while anyone here will say its expensive as hell, you get used to it after a while. It forces you to find better ways to make gil, and once you get into the groove of it its not that difficult to keep up with powder cost anymore. Ninja equipment can be particularly expensive though if you want to make a difference but if you can keep up with powder cost, you can keep up with that. Nin/War is a highly requested job at one point (Being a tank type) so it won't be hard to get into pt's if you reputation is good. All the others have they're merits too, mostly at higher levels and some difficulty however. Essentially Ninja's a defensive/evasive based class though while Thief is more offensive. Whatever suits your whims.

And if someone tell's you that Tarutaru's suck at all melee's and shouldn't be Thieves, Ranger's, or Ninja's, they're wrong. Although with Warrior, Monk, Dragoon and Samurai it may be a little challenging (just a little, no pun intended), and Taru Paladin's and Dark Knights have they're own little unique strengths with higher mp. they can still do these jobs and do it pretty well. A High Level Paladin on my LS says that one of the best Warrior's he ever came across was a Tarutaru. If anything it forces you to get better at your trade. You may not be able to reach the optimal quality, but you're still in there. But with the speed based jobs like Rng, Thf, and Nin Tarutaru's are actually one of the best race choices. These classes rely heavilly on Dexterity and Agility, and Tarutaru's have Agility thats nearly (maybe evne actually) a match for the Mithra's, and dexterity is pretty nice too, on par with Galka and Hume. Agility will give you more potent blink tanking and ranged, as well as Trick, and dexterity will give more damage to Sneak attack, and give you higher accuracy. So with the right equip to boost it even further Taru's can be really deadly little fast bugger's when it comes to those three. Your weakness ofcourse is your low vitality, but these jobs center around *not* being hit so thats not necessarilly a central factor.

[Vivid]

Just as a typical disclaimer type post. (and im not concentrating on just you, ZQM, it's just that this is like.. the fifteenth time i've seen this.. and im just wondering if people are getting confused)

thf/nin is absolutely nothing like nin/thf... it's a whole different job altogether. i hear it mentioned a lot in the ninja forums. keep in mind, thief has job abilities like sneak attack and trick attack, while ninja only has ninjutsu. very different play-styles and not really worth mentioning in the same forum area. don't get me wrong, when im a thief, i sub ninja... it's just that i hate seeing thf/nin mentioned anywhere in the ninja forum where it doesn't belong.

to be on topic:
nin/war = get gil, or suck and die and don't be a ninja
nin/thf = get less gil, suck, don't die, still be decent ninja

nin/war is probably the second most expensive job in the game, even above rng/nin (or rng/war). the first most expensive job in the game would be nin/rng.

[Kiyosuki]

Yes, I'd imagine Nin/Thf is a lot more technical to use at its best. Knowing what monsters to use what elemental debuff on, and what enfeebles and maybe what element your WS's are etc. My experience with Nin/Thf is limited though, Vivid knows a lot more about that combo than I do.

[Zanar4]

cant ninjitsu be used however at lvl 30+ even as thf/nin?

[Kiyosuki]

Yes, a Thf/Nin can use Utsusemi Ichi and Tonko Ichi by level 24, and the Elemental debuff's for Ichi by 30, and the rest of the Ichi's on by then. The only Ni abilities you will ever get though is Tonko Ni at 70, and Utsusemi Ni at level 73. The rest are Ninja only for now, and they are pretty badass. The potency difference between the Ni elemental's and the Ichi elemental's is pretty huge, as are the debuff's.


If the level cap is raised again, and the other Ninja skills become all sub friendly, the programmer's would have to release the San Ninjutsu for Ninja's.