Convince me not to use my Tropical Punches..

[Noghri]

So... I am a level 14MNK, I hear I should upgrade to Kingdom Knuckles next level, but... I don't want to. See, I like low delay, the fact the punches are like 2 sniper rings at level 10, and their name rocks... Tropical Punches... just awesome

Do these really suck? I hit pretty solidly for about 10 damage each hand with them.

I am level 75WAR btw , I am addicted to low delay/haste items

[Jei]

time to fight crabs. you'll punch it for 1-2 with tropical punches and 0 with STR down + def up. Plus your WS will be the worst in your PT due to your low delay low damage weapon.

[AgentBrownEye]

thats pretty convincing. i agree with jei.

[neighbortaru]

if you are really 75 WAR and need convincing not to use Trop Punches, I'd say you are lying.

[Macht]

Yeah, If your going for H2H weapons might want to try some others and just get yourself more +haste items. If you want H2H weapons that still give a lot of +accuracy then might want to look at Shiva Claws.

If you are really REALLY addicticted to hitting fast an option you might be most satified with is doing this.

H2H: Indra Katars
Head: Roshi Jinpachi
Food: Tonosama Rice Ball/Shogun Rice Ball

With that you're going to have +1% Triple Attack and going MNK/WAR at 60+ in level your going to have Double Attack and eating those two riceballs increases Double Attack a lot more also. So you can fun spazzing with your fists then I guess >.>


For Damage to Delay those Katars seem to be quite good, don't think there are any other weapons with stats like that +19 Damage and +84 Delay. The next closest to that with +19 Damage has a +96 Delay. If you just skip the +1% Triple Attack and just go for a higher damage H2H there are quite a few up there that are quite good in damage to delay ratio.

EDIT:

Probably shouldn't of mentioned the 75 WAR it threw me off what your question was asking, I just now got it. You're asking what the +2/+3 damage more from the Kingdom Cestis are really going to help with compaired to the Tropical Punches /+1.

Correction:

The Fruit Punches +1/+2 damage is for each hit. That means out of each hit you only getting an added +2/+4 damage to it all. When you go with Kingdom Cesti (out of the lv. 15 H2H seems to be best Damage/Delay) you'll be getting a total of +8 in each round of hits, that's a 400% or 200% increase right there.

Also even though the Tropical Punches are +1/+2 Damage and +0 Delay that means those H2H items are doing next to nothing to help. Though the comment of your damage on crabs dropping to 1-2 and 0 I think is a bit overexagurated it will be less. The 10 damage each hit you do know with the Topical Punches if done with Kingdom Cesti's it'll increase to somewere around 16-18 damage each hit.

At the lower levels changes like Tropical or Kingdom are huge. I forgot what exactly MNK starts at I think the base is something like 2 DMG and 120(?) Delay. That means the Tropical Punches are getting you a total of 3/4 DMG and 120 Delay, not getting to mathmatical and just going with those two stats that's like a 1.66 DPS. If you go with Kingdom Cesti's instead you would have 6 DMG 153 Delay that will be 3.92 DPS, that's a huge jump with just simple math.

[Dano]

if only you aren't fighting crabs... oh but that's what ppl always fight

[Macht]

Originally posted by Dano
if only you aren't fighting crabs... oh but that's what ppl always fight

That's funny though. The only time I ever fought crabs was ......... oh I remember 18-20 in Buburimu Peninsula and 25-30 in Qufim and that was only with my first job BLM.

Your choice though, almost every monster type (With the exception of those usually hunted at end-game) are everywere's and are between lvls 1-75. Anyone fighting only crabs do get really good at killing hard shell type monsters though >.>

Anyway whatever you fight lvls 1-75 is just whatever you and the party your with can fight well.

[Jei]

I prefer worms in shakrami and then korroloka. Shakrami is kinda out of question since no PTs ever formed around tarongi these days. But every night I can still get japanese PTs going to korroloka. But for korroloka i need to be at least 15-16, which, again force me to level off crabs in my 14 PTs

[Noghri]

I soloed bones in Gusgen mines from 12-16 with cure support, good stuff XD, only decent challenge now though, used Tropical Punches throughout, but I guess I'll give Kingdom Cesti a chance

[Rico]

Originally posted by Jei
I prefer worms in shakrami and then korroloka. Shakrami is kinda out of question since no PTs ever formed around tarongi these days. But every night I can still get japanese PTs going to korroloka. But for korroloka i need to be at least 15-16, which, again force me to level off crabs in my 14 PTs

Haha you can actually go to Korroloka tunel with a PT of 4 and get chains

You can also PT in Saurogon (sp) Campain and fight bettles at lvl 20.

[JP_Ikari]

Originally posted by Rico
Haha you can actually go to Korroloka tunel with a PT of 4 and get chains

You can also PT in Saurogon (sp) Campain and fight bettles at lvl 20.

Sauromongue Champaign (i think).

JP

[DakAttack]

Does anybody know how to pronounce that? The beetles there are easy to pull and are great from 19-23. I love the way everybody calls them bettles.

[LordBiGGs]

Originally posted by Macht
That's funny though. The only time I ever fought crabs was ......... oh I remember 18-20 in Buburimu Peninsula and 25-30 in Qufim and that was only with my first job BLM.

Your choice though, almost every monster type (With the exception of those usually hunted at end-game) are everywere's and are between lvls 1-75. Anyone fighting only crabs do get really good at killing hard shell type monsters though >.>

Anyway whatever you fight lvls 1-75 is just whatever you and the party your with can fight well.

crabs in valkurm 14-16ish, qufim is actually lvl 20-25, not crabs the whole time though. crabs in kuftal tunnel 52-55 crabs in boyahda tree 56-58 (if i remember right), crabs in cape terrgian 58-62, more crabs in boyahda tree 65-68ish

i'm just trying to remember off hand, but yea....