Optimal MND Gear

[Z25S]

I'm curious to know
does AF1 gloves affect chi blast?
cuz AF1 gloves double boost effect
I always noticed a huge difference with AF1 gloves then using other gloves
or does the +6 MND gloves impact more?
cuz rite now I have +53 MND and with those gloves would give me +60 without food
I would test myself but I noticed chi blast also varies in dmg range
but the more MND I had, increases the range of dmg
nice to get input from other mnks since my server barely has any at 75

[Effen]

Use both, boost with AF and have a macro to switch to Devotee's before Chi Blasting.

[Z25S]

ok
so MND doesn't count during the process of boosting up?
cuz I always thought it did reason I saw no point in switching to the +6 MND gloves before releasing chi blast
guess it doesn't hurt to try
the +6 MND gloves r very cheap

[Effen]

MND doesn't effect boost. But MND effect the damage of Chi Blast. Just like how AF Gloves doesn't actually have a direct effect on the damage of Chi Blast, but it does act as a multiplier on the number of time you boost which indirectly increase the damage of Chi Blast. If you have haste, you can actually get one more boost in there and do a 13 boost Chi Blast. Due to the decrease in time between boost from 15 to 12 seconds.

[Z25S]

hmmmm
that is strange
i thought haste does not effect job ability timers
cuz I have +22% haste at the moment

unless u mean the haste spell

but haste spell doesn't last very long

[Aneyeisuponyou]

Haste doesn't effect ablities. Fact.

[Effen]

Actually, upon futher testing... You are right, my mistake. Haste doesn't effect cast time on boost, it was the lag on Kirin that created that illusion. Again, my apologies.

[Kaylyn]

ok, correct me if I'm wrong. Boost increases your Att. every time it's used. My base attack is something like 230 something and when I boost 9-12 times I get it anywhere from 500-600.

now, the more times you boost, the higher the dmg Chi blast deals. everyone should already know this by now, testing or no testing.

with proper MND buffs and for some peeps such as myself a whm sub, this adds to the dmg output of Chi.

so, the number of boosts increases your att. so essentially it is Att + Mnd that is effecting the dmg output of Chi. This is just looking at the facts of what we already know and how the abilities are described. Boost increases attack. End of fact.

If your base attack is already higher with say, higher dmg on a weapon or a kabob, then the Boosts will cause your Attack to go even higher, and thus higher dmg on Chi. Feel free to correct me, I'm still only lvl 57/28, still only in the 200-300 range on a properly boosted Chi. But I will say that I've noticed more dmg when I have a kabob in me by 10 points. I'm a chi puller in most of my parties, most of the time I don't get to fully Boost a Chi, I noticed, and this is always, with no boost, no kabob = 50-60 dmg whereas no boost with kabob does 60-70 dmg.

[Effen]

I will repeat this one more time, attack has nothing to do with the damage of chi blast. I have chi blasted with 999 attack, and I have chi blasted with 200 attack, if it has anything to do with attack, the difference would have been huge.

Boost increases attack yes, but that doesn't mean attack increases the damage on chi blast. There are two seperate benefit from boosting, one is the obvious, increase attack on your next attack, and two, is increase the damage on chi blast.

You cannot base your testing on a couple of boost here and there, the data is just not inconsistant. If you really want to test it, do what I explained in an earlier post in this thread. Boost 11 times with a H2H weapon and then Chi blast. Your attack should be around 600-700 at your current level? Then use a club or staff and boost 11 times. Do it 10 times on the same mob, and record the data. If attack has anything to do with this, then your result would be significantly higher with the 600+ attack.

[Senate4242]

WHM Sub

For those with WHM sub, are you only using against HNM? Or are you actually using in an exp party setting. Pardon my ignorance.

[Effen]

Only for HNM or some occasions where you need sneak invis. For HNM is for stoneskin as well as MND boost.

[Kaylyn]

actually, i started and stayed with whm sub and have done extremely well. Originally when I started this combo it was because I soloed 95% of lvls 1-40. Then after Chi Blast this combo made me a highly evasive sneak puller. I've already had 5-10 rngs tell me I pull better, and faster than them and they always appreciate saving on arrows (every rng i know says arrows just = gil >< ) Plus it's always useful for the person with the highest evasion and HP to have Raise. I've already had some bad party experiences where all other raisers, whm rdm, blm pld, have died but I made it to zone. (most recent incident of this happening was when Aquarius popped in on our party ^^ )

[Effen]

If you are basing the value of a WHM sub on pulling alone, then year, WHM is an awesome sub, should try Nin sub too, with utsusemi, they will never get hit. Monk is a damage dealer, you look to maximize your damage, and with a WHM sub, you are losing a lot of key abilities and lack the option of being a SATA target. Basically, other than WAR and THF, any other subjobs are inferrior interms of damage for an exp PT. You might choose to be unique, but once you head into higher levels and the leaders actually know something, the likely hood of them inviting you is very slim.

[Effen]

so... what happened to Breal and Talus? I like how people start a debate and when they find out they are wrong, they just conveniently disappear pretending that they didn't say anything.

[Aneyeisuponyou]

What's wrong is thinking you're something special because you can post a long ass FAQ with information that anyone with half a brain cell that ever played monk, could figure out themself. I have an idea, why not write a FAQ on how to be an annoying board troll?