MNK in BCNM40 in Giddeus

[DMC]

How does mnk play the role in BCNM40? i know Bard IS a must almost every BCNM. What my plan is all i do is just spam 100 fists on the Black Mandy while the pld uses his 2hrs, brd tries to sleep the mandys, Redmage and Whitemage supports the pld when his 2hrs are up, i kill the black mandy??? Then blm just nukes while the pld can voke all the mandys if he has a Drink. Thats about what im thinking but anY mnks that have experience with BCNM40 in giddeus, please post a stragety. BTW the party im looking for is RSM/BLM, WHM/BLM BLM/WHM, BRD,WHM, PLD,WAR and MNK/WAR.

[kowboy]

If each member of your BCNM party is going to use an orb and do 6 battles, it is not recommended that you use your 2 hours. You have to make sure your mages keep the black mandy silenced until you and the PLD have 100% TP saved up. Shoulder tackle and stun blade will stop a flood attempt(shield bash is worthless in my experience). The WHM usually heals the BRD incase 1 or 2 onions wake up before the rest of the pack. RDM heals the fighters, blm nuke/silence and since he is /whm, he can cure status ailments of the fighters (paralyze, blind). RDM and BLM should keep their own corner to avoid sleep, and to wake up whm incase he is put asleep because he has to keep bard alive. In my experience, the damage dealer is the tank (usually the RNG in my BCNM setup). The PLD or WAR is just there to provoke mobs off of the bard when you pull the next one and they take the initial hits til the bard lullabys. MNKs in bcnm are just there to pound on the onions, not much strategy to it. The only thing you have to worry about is stopping a flood attempt if you have aggro. After the black one goes down, it is pretty much smooth sailing.

I havent gotten a chance to do BCNM as MNK/WAR yet because I am the tank for my BCNM PT (used to be war/mnk but war/nin is nice), but I am sure MNKs sole purpose is to wreckshop on those onions. Make sure you save your TP until the black mandy does flood and shoulder tackle him. If he goes down, then just use your TP on the next onion.

[Opie]

pld is kinda useless in BCNM's because they do no damage and a drk can tank 40 BCNM without a problem. + stun at lvl 37 for drk stops flood

[Mikeb]

BST > all in BCNM 40... Anyhow though, just about any job can tank BCNM 40. The black mandy is the only one that hits close to hard, just separate him at first, kill him, then 1 by 1 take out the others... Monk would fit in well as tank/damage dealer - the most important thing in these fights is player skill, and doing enough damage quickly.

[Ungerpurr]

I've done BCNM with drk drk mnk brd rdm blm, and with drk sam mnk brd rdm rdm, it's not that hard. I personally recommend drk, as the stun is simply invaluable vs. Flood. No one's ever gotten hit with a Flood in the BCs I've done, since it's always stunned away.

Far more worrisome, imho, is the chance that the bard will get paralyzed with paralyga. It's very important to keep this from happening, or, if it does happen, to cure paralyze ASAP.

I personally don't recommend taking three mages into BCNM; keep in mind that refresh is a level 41 spell, so it can't be used during the fight (and the fight with that group will probably take 20-25 minutes).

Also keep in mind that no two hour is a "win" button; even hundred fists will only eat about half the HP off the black mandragora. It's far better to get used to doing it without the use of 2 hours, and then just use them on the last orb if you really feel like it.

[Jifan]

There is absolutely no need for a Main Tank in BCNM 40. The LS I am in does Monk/Monk/RNG/RDM(Convert is good)/BRD/WHM or BLM.

Getting silence in is critical. BCNM 40 all relies on the Bard. Bard d/c or doesnt have all the mandies in front to sleep, gameover if he cant get of lullaby.

Tanks are not needed and actually slow things down. Combo < Piercing Arrow < Combo. Monk's Counter and great equips at that level make any other job seem like crap. Stun isnt needed, and I have never used Shoulder Tackle, we just have the mages spam silence before fight and if he starts Flood mages spam. I have yet to see Flood go off.