Trying to figure out a way to articulate what I was thinking about using both at once, but the above poster hit the nail on the head for me (Asianfury). I haven't been in a group that could get chain #5 since a hornfly group I had around level 45, because there usually never are enough monsters to fight to get that far since then (we were the only group doing hornflies that night). QSC (east altepa), Garlaige are the places I've leveled since then, always at least one other group (usually two in garlaige).
Sometimes it's not about saving focus or berserk to get chain #5, you just use them so that there will still be something to pull when your thf goes out after the kill. ^^
To all those people using brown belt in the 50s...I don't see how you can do it. Imo, if I miss one attack, period, during a course of a fight, that's one attack too many. What's average fight length...somewhere around 75 seconds or so? It varies, we'll just go with 75 seconds. Let's say Monk A has 11% haste, 4 accuracy, and hits for 50 damage a hit, with a 384 haste-modified attack delay. Monk B has 3% haste, 14 accuracy, and hits for 45 damage a hit, 418 haste-modified attack delay.
For Monk A, 75 divided by 3.84 seconds per round ~= 19, x2 = 38 attacks (we'll ignore double attack and kick). A monk around this level should be doing ~750-1250 damage a fight, call it 1000, which means 20/38 attacks landed, which seems a little low, but it doesn't matter for this comparison.
For Monk B, 75 divided by 4.18 seconds seconds per round ~= 17, x2 = 34 attacks. Now, we've decided to have this monk hitting for 45 damage a hit, so how many hits does it take for him to make up the difference? 23 x 45 = 1035. If Monk B can land ~15% more hits, in this case, he'll outdamage Monk A. The percentage of hits needed to overcome the strength deficit will get lower as the strength becomes a smaller component of damage done.
Now obviously these are all BS numbers, but I tried to make it at least somewhat reasonable (assumed gear for both monks was TM Hooks, Jujitsu Gi, Fuma Kyahan). If I could actually get a group that lasted for long enough (at the least, 4-5 hours), I'd bring both belts along and parse the difference.
Will someone with life belt land 15% more hits than someone with brown belt in the low 50s? Maybe, maybe not. I dunno, this game is damn near impossible to parse properly because you attack sooooo much slower and fewer times than Some Other Games (don't want to get anyone riled up here, heh). Bleh. My Brown Belt's getting sold either way because of me trying to afford Cross-Counters.
Sometimes it's not about saving focus or berserk to get chain #5, you just use them so that there will still be something to pull when your thf goes out after the kill. ^^
To all those people using brown belt in the 50s...I don't see how you can do it. Imo, if I miss one attack, period, during a course of a fight, that's one attack too many. What's average fight length...somewhere around 75 seconds or so? It varies, we'll just go with 75 seconds. Let's say Monk A has 11% haste, 4 accuracy, and hits for 50 damage a hit, with a 384 haste-modified attack delay. Monk B has 3% haste, 14 accuracy, and hits for 45 damage a hit, 418 haste-modified attack delay.
For Monk A, 75 divided by 3.84 seconds per round ~= 19, x2 = 38 attacks (we'll ignore double attack and kick). A monk around this level should be doing ~750-1250 damage a fight, call it 1000, which means 20/38 attacks landed, which seems a little low, but it doesn't matter for this comparison.
For Monk B, 75 divided by 4.18 seconds seconds per round ~= 17, x2 = 34 attacks. Now, we've decided to have this monk hitting for 45 damage a hit, so how many hits does it take for him to make up the difference? 23 x 45 = 1035. If Monk B can land ~15% more hits, in this case, he'll outdamage Monk A. The percentage of hits needed to overcome the strength deficit will get lower as the strength becomes a smaller component of damage done.
Now obviously these are all BS numbers, but I tried to make it at least somewhat reasonable (assumed gear for both monks was TM Hooks, Jujitsu Gi, Fuma Kyahan). If I could actually get a group that lasted for long enough (at the least, 4-5 hours), I'd bring both belts along and parse the difference.
Will someone with life belt land 15% more hits than someone with brown belt in the low 50s? Maybe, maybe not. I dunno, this game is damn near impossible to parse properly because you attack sooooo much slower and fewer times than Some Other Games (don't want to get anyone riled up here, heh). Bleh. My Brown Belt's getting sold either way because of me trying to afford Cross-Counters.


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