Difference?

[DarkMithra]

I am planning on starting as a MNK, then going to MNK/WAR, that whole thing. Then, I want to use SAM. I'm not sure whether SAM/MNK or MNK/SAM is best. Can someone list the pro's and con's to each?

And just one tiny question (and yes, I am a newbie to the game; haven't even gotten it yet): What is TP? Because I heard you get a lot of TP with MNK/SAM. Thanks!!

[Leonidas]

MNK/SAM - Lots of TP at 60 (with 30 Sam sub)
SaM/MNK - Nothing.

[TMPikachu]

Sam/mnk, up to lvl29, is a better damage dealer than sam/war (but it can't backup tank with the lack of provoke)

[sourjirou]

the only plus side to sam/monk is focus which increases ur accurracy. somethin that sams seem to have little of

[JexIntrepid]

Not only is Sam/mnk a better dmg dealer,
but you also get better VIT and DEX from a monk subjob.
And having war usually means ppl will want you to provoke, which isn't great. (at least i hate tanking)

Focus, Boost, are definitely nice.

Berserk gives more attack, but you lower your def, and you also won't necessarily hit more often. I think as sam/mnk you have more chances of hitting than with sam/war.
sam/thief is best for dex, but then the strength isn't too great either.

I'm doing sam/mnk right now, and plan on going back n' forth between sam/mnk and mnk/sam.

I just wish chi-blast could be so powerful, that it would act as a provoke (draw so much hate). That would make mnk subjob just as versatile as war.

[Thark601]

i'm one of the ppl that don't like mnk sub... it's pretty much worthless

[sourjirou]

chi blast is so uber, JexIntrepid. all u have to do is boost like10 times inbetween matches durin the down time then "let it rip" does about 100-200 dmg on any mob and when u get the AF gloves (enhanced boost) it does 200-400 dmg on any mob.its an openin attack not meant to be used in the middle of battle.

any way back on topic monk sub still isnt that great equipment and food can make up for the slightly lower dex with war sub. and as for str war give plenty of str.

[JexIntrepid]

I don't know about where you make your money, but when you're trying to lvl 2 diff. adv jobs, and your basic job, you'll see money rushing out the window pretty fast.

Equipment and food could get pricey soon, esp. when the flood of PS2 n00bs come in

[TMPikachu]

Originally posted by JexIntrepid
I don't know about where you make your money, but when you're trying to lvl 2 diff. adv jobs, and your basic job, you'll see money rushing out the window pretty fast.

Equipment and food could get pricey soon, esp. when the flood of PS2 n00bs come in

no no, just make sure to put alot of overpriced cure scrolls and bronze weapons in the AH




and on /mnk, it works BEFORE level 30

because /warrior 'only' gives you provoke and att+I

If you like being a backup tank or main tank, then do /war

but if you want to be the damage dealer, /mnk with boost before weaponskills, or just sit and boost while waiting for monsters.

the only con is obviously you don't have provoke, and you 'waste' martial arts (which doesn't seem like such a big deal to me, dragoons/samurai got their warding circles that are 'wasted' untill you actually encounter dragons and demons)


*wait a second*
aren't there two threads asking the exact same thing right now ?
:dead:

[Rikyio]

Hm, automatically assigned a n00b for being a PS2, and trying to rip us off from the beginning. I wonder why some PC players seem to have an elitist attitude, especially since they were no different when they first started. Hope I will actually meet nice people and not those who are still n00bs at lvl 70 and so on.:sweat:

[TMPikachu]

Originally posted by Rikyio
Hm, automatically assigned a n00b for being a PS2, and trying to rip us off from the beginning. I wonder why some PC players seem to have an elitist attitude, especially since they were no different when they first started. Hope I will actually meet nice people and not those who are still n00bs at lvl 70 and so on.:sweat:

I was joking. It actually happened to me, I used to buy low level spells from the AH, when that hidden shop sold them cheaper.
FFXI is also the first MMORPG I've played, I'm mainly a console gamer (the only other PC games I've avidly played were Starcraft, Diablo II, n' Warcraft3)

I'd feel aweful if anyone accused me of being mean, 'cause I'm not. I help folks, but I don't give handouts (which I hope you wouldn't ask for, as everyone is capable of earning gil, and noobs of course count )
What I DO plan to do is get everyon in my LS to stand around Ronfaure naked with subligar, hunting for Jack


heheh, I've gone and given you my life gaming story, whoops.

[Rikyio]

Subligar, so you want to make us lose our eyesight so we won't be able to play, and your say you're not mean? :spin:

And I won't be asking for handouts, I know at early levels selling crystals and doing repeatable quests can earn a decent amount of gil.

[Taoist]

Originally posted by JexIntrepid
I just wish chi-blast could be so powerful, that it would act as a provoke (draw so much hate). That would make mnk subjob just as versatile as war.

well... the point of MNK is NOT to draw hate but deal damage otherwise; so it is GOOD that chi blast doesnt draw too much hate so its more for pulling or additional attack

on another note... i never knew you can boost for CHI BLAST
DOH why didnt i think of that
but anyways sam/mnk wont have it for it is a lvl 41 skill unless SE changes lvl cap to 82+ sam

[TMPikachu]

by that level, you should hang up /mnk, it's only good for boost. Berserk with /war is alot better (at lvl30, switch)

[Thark601]

Originally posted by Rikyio
Hm, automatically assigned a n00b for being a PS2,

unless you have PC experience YOU AREA NOOB