The Dark Dragoon: Tactics of a Drg/Drk

[Seldzar]

you would beat someone because of thar opinion?

If they express it like an asswipe or as an insult they more than deserve it.

[Dragon Ghost]

you need anger management.

[modnar]

Enough talk... where are the parser results?

[Kailea]

kissboys, all I jhave sen from your posts are flameing, insulting, and vulgure. I have three things for you to try.......

1) grow up
2) get your head out of your ass
3) leave these forums forever

Enough talk... where are the parser results?

I am checking out the program now :p
when I get DRG to 60 and get my DRK and WHM to 37 I am going to test DRG with WHM, WAR, THF, DRK solo with a Tough monster, only thing I will do is count damage for the battle and not use any special crap, no food no abilities just pure damage.

[Dragon Ghost]

Originally posted by Kailea-D

2) get your head out of your ass
3) leave these forums forever

I wonder if kissboys dresses up like a mithra dragoon.

[GSDragoon]

Originally posted by Kailea-D
I am checking out the program now :p
when I get DRG to 60 and get my DRK and WHM to 37 I am going to test DRG with WHM, WAR, THF, DRK solo with a Tough monster, only thing I will do is count damage for the battle and not use any special crap, no food no abilities just pure damage.

No abilities? Well, that's an obvious answer.

WAR > DRK > THF > WHM
double attack > attack up traits > nothing special > gimped attack and str


But different jobs benifit more from IT mobs vs easier stuff. Like SA+wheeling won't do much more on a Took Weak compaired to an IT.

Seriously, with DRG/DRK you won't do more dmg. Though it may be more fun than the same old DRG/WAR.

On a side note, I suggest trying DRG/SAM. I take it on god pop runs and just use Wheeling Thrust. SAM offers much more that DRK, if you ask me.

[Kailea]

No abilities? Well, that's an obvious answer.

I am not useing abilities because they are not always availible, I want to show people that changeing you r sub does not effect your base damage as much as some say they do. I could care less about the abilities I get from my sub.

[neighbortaru]

Originally posted by Kailea-D
I could care less about the abilities I get from my sub.

Now that's really silly.

[Drogen_Shomuro]

Originally posted by Kailea-D
I want to show people that changeing you r sub does not effect your base damage as much as some say they do.

The main reason why most people claim that /war affects your base dmg the most is because you get Berserk, which is +25% atk for 3 mins. Food should also be considered because if you decide to use +atk food, the attack boost from food multiplies in with Berserk's +25% for an even greater effect. However, I think some research on the relationship between atk and dmg should be done.

Here's my theory:
It seems that atk has the greatest influence on base melee dmg when your atk is near your enemy's def. Far above or below that point, you see little difference. Thus, if a mob checks as "low defense" more attack does very little. Conversely, if a mob checks as "high defense" you'll probably notice that your hits are sporadically weak. I don't really have any data to support it though; it's only a theory.

I'd still like to see some /drk testing though. As someone pointed out before, there may simply be some hidden traits that make drg/drk effective. A truly conclusive test would require that there be two drgs, one /war, one /drk, with the same race and equip, bashing on the same IT exp mob. Killing T's would only prove which sub is better at killing T's.

[Crisis]

I'd still like to see some /drk testing though. As someone pointed out before, there may simply be some hidden traits that make drg/drk effective. A truly conclusive test would require that there be two drgs, one /war, one /drk, with the same race and equip, bashing on the same IT exp mob. Killing T's would only prove which sub is better at killing T's.

That would be a good idea cuse i'm not finding anyone to party with that will let me test the difference between /War and /Drk. So if there's any Drg/War on Cerberus at level 60 that wants to try this out let me know. Otherwise, you'll have to wait a bit more for me to get a party together to parser the two.

[modnar]

Any results? Its been a week...

[LadyPeorth]

Well Crisis...you do point out the highlights and non-highlights of your job combination. You also openly admit that DRG/DRK is not as good as DRG/WAR. You highlight a few of the disadvantages and advantages of the job combination. Well thought out, well implied, and I generally like the cut of your jib and your willingness to try new combinations. However...think you need a little more field data. That is to say, do people from your past parties agree that as a DRG/DRK, you did a sufficent job to merit credit? Besides that one minor detail...good job at opening everyone's eyes to a new job combination...well not new but a less thought of one

[Crisis]

That is to say, do people from your past parties agree that as a DRG/DRK, you did a sufficent job to merit credit?

Yes, I have had people say that the combo worked very well, with a few saying I did more damage then other Drg's they partied with. That was a majority of the people, but again, this was only up to level 55, and yes there were a few that said they prefered Drg/War. As for the parser data, i'm working on that. It's not easy to get people together that will let me use Drg/Drk for a few fights then after a while hold up the party while I go change to Drg/War. Cause like most people, they don't want to even try Drg/Drk for a few fights...

So I will get that data sometime soon I hope, when a few more of my LS members get up to 60. Right now there's only 2 that are my level, the rest are like 53 or so... so whenver I can get a test party together, i'll have them.

[modnar]

No data yet?

[Lahfiel]

Maybe he hasn't found a group. :spin: