Not to say I told you so.....

[Ayako2]

"An issue concerning the accumulation of TP with weapon skills that consist of multiple strikes (i.e. Combo, Penta Thrust, etc.) has been corrected.
TP will be accumulated as usual for that weapon type on the first strike (first two strikes for hand-to-hand attacks or when wielding two weapons), with each subsequent strike accumulating 1 TP.
Accordingly, enemies who are the targets of multiple-strike weapon skills will only gain TP from the first strike (first two strikes for hand-to-hand attacks or when wielding two weapons).
Also, all elemental weapon skills, except for Starlight and Moonlight (which affect only the wielder or party members), will now accumulate TP when used."

Never wanted to be wrong more in my life. D;

Anyway...time to enjoy life as a Batwoman impersonating BST. Since Spirit Link sounds decent.

[Malefas]

haha....

The real fun comes in the fact that I'm 10k away from 70...

Bring on Maat, I guess... :sweat:

[Cordain]

hmmmm yeah........I'm @1 and I'm gonna have a heck of a time beating maat now

[red_flare_graf]

/slap S-E
they screwed sam & drg over, we cant solo anything now, i cant stand using my katana when im not lvling or killing NMs cus its so slow. penta is the only way i can live through easy prey monsters ><

[Tetsura]

I have no Drg, but i must say that i feel for you guys in this new update...

[FrozenChrono]

Yea, you were right. I hope the changes aren't as bad as they seem at first glance ...

[Elohan]

It seriously doesn't matter if these changes really effect the DRG class. What it HAS damaged is PERCEPTION. The complete outcry from the DRG community and other melee jobs touting their superiority is seriously beginning to destroy DRGs as a class. I don't know how many threads i've read about DRK > DRG or how MNKs and RNGs pwn j00. Where these classes affected? Sure, but I guarantee you not as badly as DRGs. Not because we can't penta spam anymore(trust me, I know how dumb this is anyway), but because ppl still think that penta is our class defining skill. Without it, we are considered gimp. We offer little to distinguish ourselves as a melee class.

DRK > High dmg, high hate(unless THF sub of course)
SAM > TP and renkei
MNK > Consistent damage over time
THF > Hate management and strong one shots
WAR > Break WSs
DRG > Jump? Poor WSs?(I've heard about Wheeling Thrust and Impulse Drive....)

My greatest fear is that DRGs will now be elevated to the number 1 most undesirable job in a PT. Not because of any actual merit to this title, but by sheer ignorance and preconceptions. We already have a crappy rep 60+, and for a DRG like me in the penta lvl range, this is new patch will just make things worse. It was bad enough trying to get a PT as a dime a dozen class, but this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

I hope this is just temporary though, and that things will settle down. Because right now I get the feeling I"m never gonna get another PT ever again. Even when trying to form one myself ppl will leave, thinking the PT will be sub-par. Everyone wants to make more than 4k xp an hour right?

I love DRG though, I've had an absolute blast playing up till now. If possible I'm gonna take it to 60, but I doubt any farther. Not unless SE really examines our class.

Sorry if I had to make a "the sky is falling" post, but I seriously am worried about the future of our class.

[Zafron]

Ayako really owned everyone on this one. I'm standing by my theory that SE just wants everyone to be a RNG or BLM.

[l)@RK-l)EVIL]

guys dont lie to yourself
the only reason why most of the pt invite drg is penta
i feel sorry for drg now realy
this patch is realy stupid

i think sam hate the patch also
they cant selfrenkei anymore

[Eoyote]

I agree. I can't imagine what SE was thinking when they implemeted this.

BTW..... "Eoyote uses Tachi: Enpi on Ayako". LOL that Ballista match was insanely fun Ayako.

[fuz]

Penta, and the extra tp return from skewer allowed drg to do extra damage from more ws. With this impossible now, where is the extra damage coming from?

Does having the wyvern out more help, or just put regular attacks on par with others? With more hp, are the breath attacks so much more powerful that they can make up for the complete loss of an extra penta here and there? With more power to the wyvern and less to the dragoon, are the hate reducing jumps even ncessary?

Thinking about all this, all I can say is... no.

Although the reduced TP and wyvern healing help against NM/HNMs as ayako posted, It just seems like a horrible tradeoff.

[Yoss]

Try farming Batallia last night just see the difference in farming...eek =X

I think I could do about 40-50 tigers before running back to Jeuno get full HP...now it's around 10-15 or so.

I feel for all the war, pld, and sam who leveled polearm just for farming too...talk about a waste now.

Oh well, I think I'll switch from drg/thf to drg/whm, and see if the less downtime balances out TH1..which hopefully it will.

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I'm really interested to see if this change sticks. If they considered the TP return broken before, then I guess it'll never change back. But if this was strictly because of the Relic knuckles, I could see SE changing it back if there's a huge outcry.

[BartonOL]

I have been reading these posts for quite some time now, but have yet to post myself. Ayako has been a huge help. ty.

Something interesting happened while soloing in Rollenberry last night. I used penta and missed the first hit but hit with every other consecutive hit. I was awarded 5TP back. :confused:

It’s possible to land a penta and only receive 1TP?

I think at the VERRY LEAST hey can make the first hit you land give you the 12 TP back!

[ArthasDRG]

News Flash Barton! When you tryed to get on yesterday you downloaded the latest patch. Obviously you are not aware of the little present for all the Melee classes in the game that SE gave us all Its called nerfing our TP, and it is singel handedly screwed the Dragoon Job into eternity. Basically now, first time you hit you get 12 TP back. every hit after that you get 1 TP back. SE screwed us over. Enjoy!

[Weezingpipes]

Worst patch ever. Spirit link is ehh...not really making me like DRG much. The shit tp return on ws just makes them all the more frustrating to play. BUT they added a new lance (looks crafted) - level 69, 84 dmg 3 vit 492 delay. They could have at least PRETENDED to try to give us a viable weapon upgrade during those levels to supplement the problematic itemization, but instead we get that...

Melee slip even further behind casters at the high end with no sign of coming close to mattering. Shit damage is shit damage, and we're at the lowest end now. The more I play the more I am amazed S-E managed to fuck up melee so badly in this game, especially DRG.

Any newb reading this, don't waste your time being a DRG. Hell don't be a melee, period. The entire game only needs mages, PLD, NIN, and thats it. Everything else in the long run is irrelevant.