skewer

[Ranoik]

i just hit 60 and got my wpn skill to 200.....

skewer owns :D

ive subbed sam as drg/sam

and all i have to say is penta what?

jump attacks+meditate+skewer = :D

because of skewer i am now motivated to get to at least 65

dont give up my fellow dragoons!!

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DRAGOON FOR LIFE!!!

[Carbon]

Skewer + Dancing Edge --> Distortion is a very good skillchain.

But I'm under the impression that the Level3 skillchains that come into play at Lv65 blow away this combo, and that Wheeling Thrust pales in comparison to other jobs' Lv65 weapon skills?

[GSDragoon]

Any dmg compairison numbers between penta and skewer?

[Weezingpipes]

In most groups I'm in I Wheeling Thrust for 120-200 damage (sometimes double attacks and get 200-300 damage, but it misses entirely rather often honestly), THF Shark Bite for 600-900 damage, Light damage basically does as much damage as Shark Bite does or sometimes slightly more or a bit less, just depends on resistances. Highest I've seen to date was 900 damage Shark Bite with 1300 light damage vs a Tormentor. I usually don't group with other melee besides THF much, Cross Reaper without SA/TA is usually 400-600 I guess, and not positive on Spinning Slash since none of the DRK my level range level Greatsword, so I don't group with them.

In other words, yea Wheeling Thrust is pretty weak compared to other jobs. It is in a good spot for making Light since it allows you to renkei with some big damage finishing WS (Shark Bite, Dragon Kick, Spinning Slash pre quest WS) which is an advantage, but other jobs can fill the same slot for more damage. The other substantial advantage to level 3 renkei is since they are 4 elements, its almost impossible to not have the right skillchain for the right burst, and I think lvl 3 renkei boost magic burst damage slightly (don't quote me on that, just what a BLM told me).

If possible without it being cumbersome, do Red Lotus Blade -> Skewer -> Shark Bite/Dragon Kick/Spinning Slash every other fight or something when the PLD has tp. BLM gets 2 burst opportunities, and overall more damage is dealt.

For reference vs IT Skewer on average does 300-350 damage when all hits land, Penta Thrust usually does *maybe* 200-400 if all hits land, just depends how high the DEF is of the monster you are fighting. Skewer is a lot easier to renkei with other WS without making a completely gimp chain, unlike Penta Thrust.