In 2 weeks I get PS2 version. I have decided to play a melee... Either Dragoon or a Dark Knight. I am not sure which to choose. I hear great things about Dragoons, Penta and etc. I also hear Darks are the best damage dealers and have soul eater, but I hear it's hard for them to get parties. Any info that could help me decide between the two classes would be great.
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Well..either way you will have to wait for a pt.
Only thing that edges a dragoon out from a dark knight (besides penta thrust) is the Wyvern.
A wyvern is a dragoons best friend. If a Dragoon loses his wyvern, he isn't totally useless. But he can't do his full potential with damage.
A Drk can out damage a dragoon, But a Drk, unlike drg. Can gain huge hate, with Soulreaver and Guillotine. A Dragoon has Super Jump and his Jumps to help with the hate problems.
You should really try both, before you make a judgement. Cause it's up to you in the end.
I'd say go with Dragoon first, since Dragoons look sweet and have a babeh dragonIf the minimum wasn't acceptable it wouldn't be called the minimum. ~ The Tweezen way
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don't make big decisions like that on the forums man. Get some first hand experience playing. You have to get to lv30 anyway before you can even start playing either of them, so you'll get plenty of opportunities to group with both and check em out. Mix your 1st hand exp with the 2nd hand forum info and then make a decision.
on a side note:
who else is eagerly awaiting the DRGvsDRK/PentavsGuillo threads starting all over again when the PS2 users get online.
I know i am</sarcasm>
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actually.. when it comes to farming, drg still has an edge.. the wyvern does dmg just about equal to what you do.. making it a lot lot easier to kill mobs. i was able to take on tigers earlier than most jobs.
From my experiences, DRK's are far more versitile and useful later on. Guillo rocks Penta anyday.. and a pld should be able to hold hate very well at that point.
DRG's are good at controlling their hate when they penta a lil too much.. but later on, w/o proper EQ, penta won't be very effective.. and it's poor at making renkei's =_=;
Equipment wise, drg's get nothing great compared to drk's... heck we don't even get any ranged.
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yeah
Dragoons have the edge with penta thrust + jump.
I agree with the equipment, but I believe both still have to rely on Sniper Rings for accuracy.
I'm not sure if Drk's have heavier armor than dragoons...(hmm)
If a Dragoon subs white mage (not that I'm saying to do this) and has the AF Helm, the wyvern heals at 1/2. Which I'd say is probably really helpful when trying to solo.
And if you solo and penta + jump then your wyvern is likely to die. :mad: Frustrating.If the minimum wasn't acceptable it wouldn't be called the minimum. ~ The Tweezen way
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one main problem that a lot of people have is that they try to pick their adv. job before they get the game and actually see all the advs in action. its really about what you want to do and what you think you would do a good job at. i personally believe that being a drg is better due to faster attack rate and the wyvern that attacks in just as fast intervals as you. while drk only you are attacking w/ the help of no pet but you do have enhancing spells for attack. the only problem w/ them is if you start holding the agro and you have one of those on they sacrifice defence for strength meaning your gonna get a lot of dmg done on you in one hit. but both have their pros and cons. like i said i personally choose drg cause im a taru and i have an outside force helping me do extra dmg. in the long run just choose what comes up.
Hope that helps.
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DRK wears all the heavy armor like PLD and BST. DRG is 'limited' to scale at best. Note: Purists will say, they're both damage dealers and shouldn't get hit. Practically though, especially with thf throwing SA/TA combo around you're GOING to get smacked from time to time. Even RDMs and BRDs get hit occasionally.Cooking: 60, Alchemy: 56, Smithing: 41, Goldsmithing: 15, Woodworking: 9, Leathercraft: 11, Boneworking: 1
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Sorry guys, you and I both know that DRK destroys DRG in damage lvl 60+
Don't pretend and rationalize we dont, because we do.
DRG have other skills that they bring to the party.
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I wouldn't say "destroys" anyone in damage. The only time I've seen impressive DRK damage pre 65 was with Soul Eater, which is a hate monger. Otherwise, not that impressive. I'm sure you are looking forward to Guillotine spamming. Enjoy those 150-300 damage Guillotines. MNK outdamages DRK most times at high levels too btw.
The basic jobs end up better than most of the advanced jobs by high levels. The expansion jobs (SMN DRG SAM NIN) all have different problems, avoid playing them unless you have an interest in disappointment.
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MNK outdamages DRK most times at high levels too btw.
Once a DRK hits 60 and brings guillotine to teh party, combined with 2 sniper rings and soul eater, the only ones that can compete with that are a ranger and a blm.
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Originally posted by Mikasa
MNK outdamages DRK most times at high levels too btw.
Once a DRK hits 60 and brings guillotine to teh party, combined with 2 sniper rings and soul eater, the only ones that can compete with that are a ranger and a blm.
MNK cannot compete with DRK al lvl 65+ .
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Guillotine is like Penta Thrust in damage most times I've seen it. Its not that impressive, only really big numbers with soul eater, which most DRK know that is pretty risky, simply from the hate generated, and losing 40% hp. Its the kind of thing saved for chain 5 in a party, and with the reuse time on soul eater, it isn't exactly constant.
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