drk/thf post 65 role

[knnb]

hello
i would like to know how does a drk/thf function in a PT for 65-75
from pulling all the way to battle ends
especially with sneak attack, trick attack.
do u use them both together for lvl 3 renkei
or just trick attack+ws on paladin?
and how does the situation change if u r using a GS?
thanks

[Ele]

All the questions you asked are answered in Awntawn's guides at the top of the DRK forum page. If you have any questions concerning DRK, look for answers from him. He's the DRK guru

[xcalibur2k]

Originally posted by Ele
He's the DRK guru

Awntawn not a DRK guru! He's a DRK god! I have his shrine in my mog house. I pray to it 3 times a day...

...on a side note, can anyone spare me some koolaid? :sweat:

[knnb]

hi
lets say you have a paladin and a mnk or sam
does that mean you actually sneak+trick+ws onto the mnk or sam for renkei halfway through the battle?
mnk and sam ws does lots of dmg, if i do trick onto them im afraid the mob will stick onto them and cause the paladin to lose control.

[Ele]

Just use trick + ws onto the PLD and then do sa by yourself. Makes things easier

[bladecloud]

I use SA/TA onto the DRG in my group, so they can just dispel agro with High Jump/Super Jump.

[albert lee]

Originally posted by xcalibur2k


Awntawn not a DRK guru! He's a DRK god! I have his shrine in my mog house. I pray to it 3 times a day...

...on a side note, can anyone spare me some koolaid? :sweat:

you guys are creepy...

[knnb]

hmm...
from what i understand in Awn post
after 65,
does that mean you will sneak/trick crossreaper/spinslash onto a monk or samurai (drg not in topic here) as well?
the monks and samurais ive Pted always do around 200-400+ with their ws, is it really ok to sa/ta onto them?

[Aldo]

Originally posted by knnb
hmm...
from what i understand in Awn post
after 65,
does that mean you will sneak/trick crossreaper/spinslash onto a monk or samurai (drg not in topic here) as well?
the monks and samurais ive Pted always do around 200-400+ with their ws, is it really ok to sa/ta onto them?

drgs and drks are compatible linking daisharin-spinslash for lv3 light. samurais have the same function as drks (and opt to sub thf at higher levels too) so they are not compatible. also, spinslash is capped at lv66 not 65 (daisharin is lv65 i beleive)

[knnb]

Originally posted by Aldo


drgs and drks are compatible linking daisharin-spinslash for lv3 light. samurais have the same function as drks (and opt to sub thf at higher levels too) so they are not compatible. also, spinslash is capped at lv66 not 65 (daisharin is lv65 i beleive)

thank you, but the post is not asking for compatibility actually, im talking about monk and samurai here, even if you worship Dragoon please don't bring him in the topic here.
and yes, we get spinslash at 66, i said after 65.
please offer me some help here with regard to the 1st post.

[Awntawn]

SAM u join their party after 71 when they get their 250... Basically for WAR and SAM, you check on the situation. If they have warcry ready, they can use that to turn the target around (along with WS + provoke). Every other time you either do it at the start behind the PLD or else you just go behind the WAR or SAM (these classes can afford to take a few). Note that this is with PLD tank (best tank at higher levels). With NIN or WAR tank, SAM or WAR can almost always take it off with provoke + WS. For DRG, their WS doesn't do enough damage to turn it around most of the time, so you just go behind them to save trouble. DRG doesn't need to sub WAR for this reason. The downside is that the hate is erased after the skillchain, so if the BLM lands a heavy MB, any non-PLD tank wouldn't be able to hold it, so with non-PLD tanks, DRG should still sub war and try to turn the target before chaining.

BST is more or less the same as WAR.

For RNG, WS + provoke will always turn it without a doubt, so just wait patiently behind the tank. There are times where the WS misses, however, and the whole chain is ruined, but it happens with all the classes. For MNK, same thing, their WS will almost always turn it around.