why hate vorpal scythe?

[albert lee]

as subject states why do alot of people hate this weapon skill? it's stronger than any of the ws10-125, and kit renki's with the thief. not bad imo. souleater/doubleattack/critvorpal i did 586 dmg... higher than the thief's viper/sneak/trick.. i got a shitload of hate for that :sweat:

also, does sneak stack with vorpal or is there no point?

btw, so far all the dragoons that i have pt'ed with absolutely sucked.. 4-200 (200 if all hits landed) dmg penta... not that great... lol. 225-250 vorpal rocked the crap out of them, but those were shitty dragoons.

[Socrates]

vorpal sux compared to the better ws others get at lv 49.

drg gets penta
monks get raging fists (rangeki?)

they key is that they can build TP and renkei hellavu lot faster than drk can. u can argue that drk can wack per swing harder than anyone else, but lets talk cumulative dmg.

a drg with penta and wyvern can beat drk out in cumulative dmg because they can spam specials much much faster than drk and everytime a drg ws finishes, wyvern breath gives an extra attack too. so you got jump, high jump, penta, wyvern breathe, penta, wyvern breathe...

all the while drk can only swing swing swing...

by the time a drk has enough tp to vorpal, drg can penta twice and have wyvern breathe twice.

well equiped drgs just outclass drk after lv 49. as do monks it seems.

[MAK]

90% of the time vorpal hits 100ish dmg.. thats why it SUCKS

[fuz]

Yep, for some odd reason, even when charged with plenty of TP, it does just minimal damage on occasion...

[Doku]

More TP on vorpal scythe just means "higher chance to crit" , does not modify the damage.

Slice does more damage with 300% TP

[Klumps]

"Chance to crit" WS in general are very inconsistent damage...you can do excellent damage one fight, and very very poorly the next (Monk's 100 skill WS, Backhand Blow, can do anywhere from 40-300 damage on an IT). Power Slash also falls into this category, about the only useful thing that WS does is renkei into distortion (which is also true of vorpal scythe).

[Thorrion]

Hmm, I don't have Vorpal yet, but I used Greatsword all the way to 30 while levelling warrior, and in that time, Powerslash did the highest damage of any of the 3 WS's I had...

Will find out how Vorpal compares later on...

[Sorath]

in the rare instance that your double attack procs in your Vorpal Scythe, you'll hit for high damage, especially if the % to crit factor of the WS is high during that time as well. (which is random, and also rare)

doing mouriches in boyahda yesterday, had thief in PT, doing distortion. was hitting 120-290. Pretty decent but they were T and VT mostly. usually hits for 120-200.

One particular hit, crit chance was high (about 290 if vorpal) but double attack procced (25% TP return) so did about 547 +

pretty rare, but of course not as rare as guillo 4hits with double attack on each ^^

[gix]

Slice is more consistent damage, but since i've gotten Vorpal, i use it now anyway. it's not exactly hate, but more like bewilderment when one fight you can do 600 damage and the next you do 100

[Aldo]

lol i got that only 1 time of my year playing this game. guillotine->1400 damage 100% tp return. war sub is so fun sometimes.

[Garou]

I think dex has something to do with it as well. As a mith drk wearing +11 dex, i seldom get a non critical Power Slash. But then again.. maybe i'm just lucky~

[Izual]

I've had a 6-hit guillo before, 75% return. I'd love to see 8 though, that would be insane. Especially if you had souleater up at the time:spin:

[gix]

wouldn't you be pretty close to death though :sweat:

[kumaeru]

Originally posted by gix
wouldn't you be pretty close to death though :sweat:

Then you guillotine it again and make sure it stays dead :spin:

[Izual]

Like kumaeru said, you just better hope you kill it fast

Ironically, this happened to me last night. I was fighting toramas in Onzozo, 5-chaining and getting about 1k per chain. On the last chain we needed to kill really fast, so I would use a souleater guillotine in the renkei. Well one of the times, all hits landed and double attack kicked in (can't remember if it was 5 hits or 6, but it was definitely more than usual). Toramas have pretty high defense, my normal swings will only do ~90-120 on them. But my guillotine hit for over 1100 Not even an 800-damage fuidama dancing edge and 2 provokes could rip it off me. Needless to say, I came very close to death (22 hp at one point )