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I am in a small linkshell made up of people that have played mmorpg's together for 4+ years and are powergamers. Only 7 people are in the ls atm (upper 30's), and it's a good day when they are all on. The problem is that we lost our pld.
That leaves us with a rdm/whm, blm/whm, drg/war, drk/war(me) as the usual 4, with whm/thf/mnk thrown in sometimes.
Now this setup would have been ok with a pld as the 5th member, but now the drg is our new tank. That really leaves me the odd man out since a drk is a late bloomer that contributes less than those other classes until later in the game and is about as high maintenance a char as I've ever seen.
These are the issues I see:
1) Drg is not a real tank (ok, got that out of the way, heh)
2) See #1
3) Even if drg can hold aggro off me if I use Berserk (since SE was nice enough to give drg their defining ws at 49), I can pretty much cross off ever using Last Resort or Souleater for anything but ws charging and, even then, aggro is gonna be dicey.
4) Drg might suck so bad that I end up having to tank instead. Which means losing all that nice +dex and +accur gear and becoming a 2h warrior that will stir up elementals with the windstorms my misses will create.
Now I think a drk would be a complete waste in the environment I see myself ending up in. A drk's damage means nothing if they don't have the freedom to use it.
So I am, most likely, going to switch classes. These are my considerations:
1) Pld/war (1h): No need to go into details on this one, other than to say that our concern is losing too much dmg since we are lucky to have a full group on at once. So the question is: Will the ability to have the best tanking ability/aggro control in the game (no rich ninjas here) more than offset the longer fight times from the loss of drk/war dmg?
2) Pld/war (2h): No hissing please. This would be based on our desire to have better tank/control aggro than a drg can give us, but lose less overall dmg. I understand the losses involved with not using a shield. The question is whether the improvement in dmg from going 2h would offset the additional damage that would have to be healed (concerning downtime).
3) War/Sam: Only going 2h here because what's the point of a war without breaks, plus we'll have our piercing ws to go with Viper taken care of by the drg. Not as good as a pld, of course, but as Awntawn (think it was him) has said: Warriors are the brds of tanks. I wouldn't tank as well as a pld or hold aggro as well, but I sure as heck would tank better than a drg. Plus my damage would be better than a drk dressed up in war clothes. Question here is whether a war/sam can tank well enough to replace a pld as main tank, and if the extra dmg/breaks from the war make up for the loss of tanking ability. I'm leaning towards a 'yes' on the question about replacing a pld since I've read some favorable comments about people prefering a war/sam over a pld/war in a group, but I enjoy hearing all opinions.
None of us has played the game past 38, so all of our knowledge about higher level play is based on what we have read, not experienced. So, please, let me know what you think about our problem and what the best solution might be. Actually, not the 'best' solution, cause that would be getting more people or finding a tank to toss in every time we head out.
So barring one of those 'best' solutions, what would be your opinions about my thoughts and concerns with being a drk in a group with no real tank and about my views on what class would best help the linkshell in place of the drk.
Thanks, in advance, for your time.
I am in a small linkshell made up of people that have played mmorpg's together for 4+ years and are powergamers. Only 7 people are in the ls atm (upper 30's), and it's a good day when they are all on. The problem is that we lost our pld.
That leaves us with a rdm/whm, blm/whm, drg/war, drk/war(me) as the usual 4, with whm/thf/mnk thrown in sometimes.
Now this setup would have been ok with a pld as the 5th member, but now the drg is our new tank. That really leaves me the odd man out since a drk is a late bloomer that contributes less than those other classes until later in the game and is about as high maintenance a char as I've ever seen.
These are the issues I see:
1) Drg is not a real tank (ok, got that out of the way, heh)
2) See #1
3) Even if drg can hold aggro off me if I use Berserk (since SE was nice enough to give drg their defining ws at 49), I can pretty much cross off ever using Last Resort or Souleater for anything but ws charging and, even then, aggro is gonna be dicey.
4) Drg might suck so bad that I end up having to tank instead. Which means losing all that nice +dex and +accur gear and becoming a 2h warrior that will stir up elementals with the windstorms my misses will create.
Now I think a drk would be a complete waste in the environment I see myself ending up in. A drk's damage means nothing if they don't have the freedom to use it.
So I am, most likely, going to switch classes. These are my considerations:
1) Pld/war (1h): No need to go into details on this one, other than to say that our concern is losing too much dmg since we are lucky to have a full group on at once. So the question is: Will the ability to have the best tanking ability/aggro control in the game (no rich ninjas here) more than offset the longer fight times from the loss of drk/war dmg?
2) Pld/war (2h): No hissing please. This would be based on our desire to have better tank/control aggro than a drg can give us, but lose less overall dmg. I understand the losses involved with not using a shield. The question is whether the improvement in dmg from going 2h would offset the additional damage that would have to be healed (concerning downtime).
3) War/Sam: Only going 2h here because what's the point of a war without breaks, plus we'll have our piercing ws to go with Viper taken care of by the drg. Not as good as a pld, of course, but as Awntawn (think it was him) has said: Warriors are the brds of tanks. I wouldn't tank as well as a pld or hold aggro as well, but I sure as heck would tank better than a drg. Plus my damage would be better than a drk dressed up in war clothes. Question here is whether a war/sam can tank well enough to replace a pld as main tank, and if the extra dmg/breaks from the war make up for the loss of tanking ability. I'm leaning towards a 'yes' on the question about replacing a pld since I've read some favorable comments about people prefering a war/sam over a pld/war in a group, but I enjoy hearing all opinions.
None of us has played the game past 38, so all of our knowledge about higher level play is based on what we have read, not experienced. So, please, let me know what you think about our problem and what the best solution might be. Actually, not the 'best' solution, cause that would be getting more people or finding a tank to toss in every time we head out.
So barring one of those 'best' solutions, what would be your opinions about my thoughts and concerns with being a drk in a group with no real tank and about my views on what class would best help the linkshell in place of the drk.
Thanks, in advance, for your time.
If that's not the case, WAR/MNK -> WAR/SAM may be a good choice for you, since you want to deal damage as well as tank. Sure as hell would be better than a DRG tank... Hope that helped.
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