Any one tried this...

[tomc1988t]

wow albert..ya think you know it all....if you've done research DRKS should never use the provoke and fighting ITs with level 31 armor 5-6 hits would take me below 100 hp.......

[Varo]

I would say, for putting out Guillotines, /WAR or /SAM would be the ideal choices. Guillotine is a multi hit WS so the effects of trick/sneak would only effect the first hit. The rest of them would just be normal hits. Like someone said a few posts up, /WAR gets more attack bonuses plus double attack. I think that /WAR has the potential to put out way more damage than /THF but just doesn't do it consistantly.

However, if you're sticking with 1-hit WS's then perhaps /THF is ideal. Depends on the situation if you ask me.

[tomc1988t]

-_-;...i am only subbing theif till 50 lol

[Slant]

no i shouldn't provoke..i don't have a death wish albert...i would rather be /thf and be gimped a bit of damage then go /war and be expected to be in the provoking order -_-

I've only seen provoking orders in qufim and dunes when you have 4-5 warriors in every group. I'd rather do better damage and have to ability to be a mediocer tank than not be able to do either.

wow albert..ya think you know it all....if you've done research DRKS should never use the provoke and fighting ITs with level 31 armor 5-6 hits would take me below 100 hp.......

At 31 i was killing those onion head men over in Kazham that cant hit for shit. DRK tanks can chain those guys with 1 healer no problem. Besides, voke is useful for lots of things other than tanking, just having the option is great imo.

[tomc1988t]

yes it is great to have that option.....but several great dark knights on boards and in game have told me to never provoke....i did it in qufim and valkrum and LTP...but when i got to qufim i stopped provoking....

[Midou]

theres nothing wrong with a drk tank pre-30 in the newb zones. saying that you're sub'ing thf over war because you're afraid to voke and take a few hits makes you sound like those pansy ass mages that cry when they get smacked a little..

[Drynavere]

Aye Midou. A well said point. I hate when the WHM gets hit and says some lame remark like "Wtf are u guys doing?... Help me!!!"

...It's like 50 dmg buddy WHM, you can handle 1 hit...

All this nonsense arguing about /THF and /WAR is just based on personal opinion. If they were going to make a game where everyone had the same subjob, and all used the same techniques, doing similar damage, they would call it Diablo 3.

As for provoking. if you CAN provoke, and ur tank is sitting with 30 hp, and you don't provoke....you can start looking for a new group buddy....ANYONE should provoke in times of dire need. It's just common courtesy.

None of this "Oh, I'm a DRK with provoke, and you have 30 hp. But I'm not provoking because I have 50 less def than you..."

Get some balls and help your party out in emergencies.

[Awntawn]

"take hate" doesn't mean get hit. It means monster turns around and rapes you, pld taunt, shield bash, sentinel, cure4, and you're still getting raped.

and if PLD is dying... If the tank is any good at all, melees won't be able to save him. Try as they might, they won't be able to take the tail, except maybe their strongest WS, which is always available.

[Mithrael]

Awntawn knows more than i. However, i'll add at lv.31 you can provoke. IT beetles in altepa rarely got me in the red as the ONLY 'tank' in a party. We got 3k exp an hour. Not godly exp, granted, but we weren't getting better exp for lack of things to kill, not because of healing downtime.

At lv.31 what gear could you possibly be wearing that would lower your defense and evasion so much that you couldn't take a hit? ideally, as a drk, your best equipment right now is...

Mercenary Captain's Scythe
Demonic Sword
Power Crossbow
Centurion's Visor
Spike Necklace
Beetle Earring +1
Centurion's Scale Mail
Royal Squire's Mufflers
<insert your opinion on rings here>
Since you are elvaan, probably your RSE pants
Mercenary Captain's Belt
Royal Squire's or Centurions Greaves (exactly the same except for which jobs can equip them.)

unless i'm missing some rare/ex equipment i don't yet know about, your equipment should have an overall defense/evasion loss of.. -4 evasion at most. Unless you are still using the deathbringer... >.<

when you get to lv.40 and have 2 sniper rings, provoking will be a bad plan.