Which sub would be best

[elias]

I just lv'd my dark to 40, and im thinking of my sub.( I was using war and sam until now)

I have my monk, thf, and sam lvd high, but my war is only 16. I know that war is the best sub until 60, when i'll put Sam on as my sub. I really dont wanna lv another job, ie. war, unless i really have to.

What i want to know is, out of the three jobs: Thf/Sam/Mnk which would be the best sub for a drk from 40, to get him to 60.

[albert lee]

dude, ur war is just 5lvls below ur sam... u should, and i think u have to lvl ur war. getting to thirthy isnt that hard. all the other subs are usless.

[Drynavere]

Thf makes a fairly good combo with Drk if you really don't want to level up your warrior.

[Socrates]

try this, lv your drk and war synchronously, until lv 30 or lv 37.

reason for this is b/c drk and war can share equpment and which u needn't buy twice for. Very convenient, althought it takes twice as long until you reach lv 30.

[albert lee]

thief is usless untill u get trick and thats lvl 60, without beserk, ur not a good dmg dealer for lvls 30-59 because sneak is pretty useless.

[Drynavere]

Thief is not USELESS until you get sneak or trick. And uh...sneak is at THF lvl 15, so therefore you'd get it at lvl 30.

Subbing theif also gives you an evasion bonus, which is nice for a DRK because hey, if they do get in an emergency situation, it's nice to see that little "soandso misses."

As well, they give a slight dex bonus, which gives more accuracy. Although THF doesn't give berserk or any attack-like bonus, it's not USELESS. (Sick of ppl saying going /war is the only way to go....:dead: )

[Shinora]

THF sub is not "Useless" , However subbing WAR would be the best choice thoughout a Dark Knight's career imo. Lots of people have different opinions about which subs work well, if it works for you, and that's the way you want to play, and if it suits your playing style etc. then continue on the subjob you want and have fun.

[albert lee]

ok... mah bad.. thief is not useless, but pre 60, its pretty crappy. sneak maybe good for thief main, but as a sub it sucks. the sneak will always be half ur mainjobs lvl so it does crap for dmg. if the sub is more fun then the main job, switch ur sub to your main. the evasion bonus doesnt do crap to help enough, id rather have a def bonus then the evasion bonus. if ur gonna farm gilfinder/steal would be good but i c no point in subbing thief pre 60. SNEAK sucks for a sub thief.

dex bonus ooo... lol the dex bonus isn't that great. alot of people post 3dex=1acc or 2dex=1acc, (it seems like 3dex=1acc to me.) dex doesnt mean shit unless your a theif. accuracy equip is much better for all jobs except thief.

[Drynavere]

if the sub is more fun then the main job, switch ur sub to your main

That's probably one of the smartest things I've read on this forum. Ever.

I've been around here for a year or so as well so....(nt on this account but...in general)

EXCELLENT point albert, If you have a main job, and you really like your subjob. Why not try switching your sub to your main. Obviously you like it enough to be a main job so, go with what suits you.

[Socrates]

the stats for both drk/war and drk/thf are neglegible. they are around the same...

but ability-wise, that's where the serpant tongue forks.

from experience...

i've played mithra thf/war and the evasion bonus doesn't seem all that great. i can't really discern much difference between having it and not having it. If i had to guess, it adds +10 evasion since square likes the number 10...

gil finder as main makes killing gobs and orcs more profitable, but still not too useful for parties

steal ability is cool, you might get a stack of silver beastcoins worth around 4k (on my server). but steal isn't that useful to the party nor do you make much money. might be good if you're a hardcore crafter, you can steal lot of materials.

treasure hunter...good if you're going for NM hunting or farming, otherwise, pretty worthless.

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war can offer dual swing, berserk (adds quite a noticible difference when i used it as a war main). def bonus is nice to have, it added 10 def to my character. provoke is really handy actually. you never know when you might need it...

[sdjk]

i would only use thf sub if i wanted to farm. and war is also very good postlv60, its just sam and thf sub isnt comparable to the war sub prelv60. like many others have said, use different subs depending on your situation and party setup. (mnk sub isnt that great, because the hp bonus wont help since you shouldnt be taking hits, counter and boost is crap compared to war dual swing, berserk and the stat bonuses you get from war)