Drk/thf

[RadioClash]

Well, I was wonderin if this would work. I mean, yea, most THF would like to become RNG or NIN. The also use dif weapons, but neither of them are ment to take this. Could it work out? Deal massive damage, while having a good amount of evasion and stuff. =) Not to mention treasure hunter/sneak attack at lvl30

[adogcat]

One of the more perferred subjobs for drk.

sneak attack + scythe is very strong

[X3n071tH]

in my opinion this combination sucks peanuts ...... no offense to those already doing this....I invest all my power to u to survive....i mean with this combo.....the dark knight would lack power probably but gain nice agility and accuracy....but u lack the POWER which the dark knight is all about.......when PT are looking for a dark knight there thinking attacker.....you can attack with dk/theif but not as strong as a Dark Knight/ Warrior they pale in comparison dont they??

[Atheist]

drk/thf is commonly seen on drks who are above lv60, apparently, Guillotine can deal up to 1k of damage, with fuidama/yokodama, it transfers the hate over to the tanker, which is helpful instead of having the hate all on you, wasting your WHM's mp by using like 2 cure4s on you.
which is why i'm training a thf up to 30 before continuing to PT.

[X3n071tH]

hey....thats a good idea.....well i guess u can say its a good combo when u reach level 60.........

its realli good if u can deal 1k damage....ITS up to u GOodlUCK

[Tidane]

Yeah, I was wondering, how much STR do you lose from /WAR to /THF? Is it that much, that takes your attack down enough to be usless? Or can you still do massive damage, just less massive than /WAR?

[Atheist]

According to the stats calculator, lv70drk/35thf has 4str less then a warrior sub. damage dip isn't really that significant.
Regular attacks, drk/war deals a little bit more
WS(Guillotine), drk/thf deals more with yokodama
but until you hit lv60 on drk, warrior would be the most recommended sub job for a drk

[X3n071tH]

can i say....not only recommended but also usually picked the most for pts also.....

[Atheist]

yes, though the story changes pass lv60, many drk/thf and drk/sam lurking around

[X3n071tH]

yes i understand that.....im not going to be a thf though..wit the sub...im going to try and sub samurai!!!hahahaha

[Keftenk]

would this work?

Darkness + Sneak + Decieving + Last Resort +2 hand axe WS = godly damage?

or doesnt that all stack up?

[Awntawn]

You guys are getting the wrong idea.

THF sub's backstab does absolute shit for damage. It's the same as a normal critical attack. In terms of guillotine, DRK/WAR does way more damage than DRK/THF, because of passive and active attack ups per hit, and most importantly, dual swing. Every now and then, you'll land a dual swing and that makes it 5 instead of 4 hits for guillotine. No no, DRK/WAR does way more damage than DRK/THF, not to mention standard hits. DRK/SAM is harder to tell, because you can charge up TP really fast and use guillotine more. Regardless, in both of these cases, DRK/WAR and DRK/SAM, hate is too big an issue. The reason why DRK has to wait so long to get invites isn't because they don't do enough damage. It's because we get too much hate, and mages don't like that.

DRK/THF is different issue altogether. The one, single, and most important fact, is that yokodama (deceiving blow trick, in case you don't know) transfers hate. That means, if you do it right, you can use darkness + guillotine and the monster won't turn around to hit you. And believe me, if you think DRK has bad defense at lower levels, wait till after level 60. Our base defense is lower than RDM, and tied w/ bard, unless the bard subs war, in that case we're not even in the competition. Not to mention with berserk and or last resort up. We have cardboard defense. (BTW: drg's base defense is even lower, but they don't deal as much damage, do they don't have to worry about hate :p ). Also, darkness takes away 15% of your HP per swing w/ the AF helm. With guillotine, it takes it away roughly 1/2 of your health (orange once you swing). This is a time that you do NOT want the monster hitting you, especially the ones with those heavy counter attacks. If you transfer the hate, they will continue to hit the pld.

[X3n071tH]

im sorry for arguring....and saying the dark knight/theif sucked...i pretty much meant that it was useless berfore level 60...after futhering exploring i found out....from (awntawn)that it was widely used and a good considered a good combo.......

[Thylteev]

Ok, my understanding of "hate" is that it is how angry an enemy is at you at the moment and how bent it is on messing you the hell up. Is "hate" quantifiable? If this is right, then how do you transfer "hate"?

[Necron56]

god I'm sick and tired of you guys...you shoot down every single person idea for job comobos...FACE IT THERE IS NO PERFECT COMBINATION....if all you do is worry about how you're job combination makes you bad then you're not playing the game right...is was made to be fun...not to be perfect.....kid...go ahead with you're shadowknight/thief...hell make him a taru if you want...play the way you want ...not what'll give you 'the perfect job combination'....do what you want