Magic Burst respect // Leveling trouble

[Tetsura]

I did my first MB in Qufim at lvl 20 using stonega (scission was the only SC we could pull off that clipper wasnt resistant to) did 120 dmg and since then i've been doing MB's every chance i get and spreading the word of SC's to those new to it.

I may have the timing down for the first tier spells, but the problem i'm usually having is that i rely on the 2nd WS for timing and then when i cast it seems the 2nd WS was either late or early so my cast lands but there is no SC so it's not a MB. But sometimes i'm just too tired when i come home to try and explain the SC and MB and so forth to those that know nothing about it yet.

I'm considering making a 4-5 part macro explaining SC's and MB's

[FFXITsukasa]

I hate it when I offer to my group "Hey I will throw ina Magic Burst into the Skill Chain" and they just blow on by completly ignoring the fact that if they tell me to throw in a spell so i can conserve some MP for later. Instead they just use the Skill Chain and leave me to wallow in my pool of empty mana. I guess most people really don't understand the power of a Magic Burst, let along the conservative side to it.

[poweryoga]

most people don't see the power of bursting until they actually do it...

i was with a group of newbies (christmas surge) back in dunes and i was lvling my warrior...

nobody knew what a skill chain was, and nobody knew what to do. Mages never heard of "magic burst" and melees never heard of "skill chain" or "renkei".

me and one other person taught them how... "give it a shot, what harm could it do?"

We ended up bursting every time with a consistant skill chain... went from gobs to crabs to sheep.... 4 levels in mere 3 hours.

Point: Teach people and they might actually learn

[AtraposBLM]

/nod Poweryoga.

[FFXITsukasa]

Ok so you cast a spell that matches the element of the last weapon skills used or the type of skill chain used? For example a Fusion weapon skill is Fire type so you would use a Fire type spell or Luquification is Water so I would cast Waterga or something. Which one is it?

[Digital]

Fusion is a level 2 mixture of fire and light (i think it's light) but banish is lame so the usual MB is fire. Liquefication is a level 1 SC thats fire based, so you would cast fire for it also.

What I REALLY hate is a PT witha a SAM and NO renkei. I had a PT in CN last night and I, the RDM, was spamming just to get them to make renkei. The sad part is, the blm didn't even help me get them to make one, and I was doing it for him ><.

[AtraposBLM]

some blm's themselves have never been taught to MB and don't know how awesome it could be

[evilution]

heh when i level my sub's I'm usually the only one who MB's

yes i usuall MB with a WHM/BLM and always with my RDM .. Someone has to.. alot of ignorant BLM out there.

[Roldarin]

I gave up teaching newbies Skillchains. It takes a well balanced party AND a whole group of people who understand skillchains to make it produce exp chains against IT mobs.

Many newbie parties are satisfied taking down IT/VT clippers/snippers with a little downtime. They use their WS when they are up and the BLMs nuke.

/shrug. When I go back to leveling my lower level jobs, when I leave Qufim maybe I'll try another crack at it.

[Karinya]

Skillchains and magic bursts aren't as powerful or important at low levels. SE did this on purpose so that people would have time to learn them before they become *really* important.

Having said that, there are still three kinds of people who let their job down: the sam that doesn't skillchain, the blm that doesn't magic burst and use elemental weaknesses, and the rdm that doesn't enfeeble. The rest of the party might not even notice how much worse they're doing because of those players, but they are dragging the party down nonetheless.

It's especially bad with the sam because it's an advanced job with a fairly hard quest - you have to have played a while to open it, so you *should* know how (and why) to put together a skillchain by the time you first pick up a great katana.

[Ungerpurr]

I didn't have much luck getting melees to magic burst in valkurm on blm, but I was able to get it going well in Qufim. I even made the melees change their skillchains around once I leveled 23 so I could try out aeroga (126 damage I think? Nothing to write home about, but still fun).

Although I've told myself that I'm done with leveling blm, as it serves no further purpose (just got it to level 23 so that I could have enough MP to warp when subbed under monk without changing gear), I've considered going back to it...the thought of getting firaga bursts off a red lotus -> thief's sneak attack + combo in Yuhtunga / Yhoator vs. a mandragora.....mmmmmmm tasty. Aero 2 MB in garlaige vs. bats.....thundaga bursts vs. crawlers in CN...Blizzaga bursts against CN beetles...Blizzard 2 bursts against hornflies in CN, and helm beetles and the like in Quicksand...

Blm is a very fun job, but I just don't have enough time to level them all as much as I'd like. ^^

[FFXITsukasa]

I did a Magic Burst once by accident and have been obsessed with them since. I cast Aero after Burning Blade and BOOM! Magic burst I just thought it look cool but I could never seem to hit one again. I heard several different things about Magic Bursts but they dont seem to be right. One said to follow a Weapon Skill with the with an elemental spell of the same element. But that doesn't explain why Burning Blade went into Aero and made a Magic Burst. I think it was Luquification. I dunno, could someone learn me something about Magic Bursts.

[Tetsura]

here's an amazing website for planning SC's and thus MB's, i use it whenever i join a new party and i suggest you do too

http://ffxi.liquid-x.net/renkei/

The level 2 SC's are just a mix of 2 elements, these consist of:
Fusion (Fire and Light) : Magic Burst with Fire or Light spells
Distortion (Ice and Water) : Magic Burst with Ice or Water spells
Fragmentation (Thunder and Wind) : Magic burst with Thunder or Wind spells
Gravitation (Dark and Earth) : Magic burst with Dark or Earth spells


There's also lvl 3 Skill chains at the higher lvls which are 4 elements each they are:
Light (Fire, Light, Thunder, Wind) : Can MB with any of the 4 listed elements
Dark (Dark, Earth, Ice, Water) : Can MB with any of the 4 listed elements


The higher the SC's lvl the more "SC Damage" is included (before factoring elemental weaknesses of the monster your facing).

Hope this helps :sweat:

[Anakijeri]

at 27BLM/13 RDM, Aeroga bursts for 184 DMG VS IT Yhotar Mandragora's.


my party kinda went...... "whoa"

[FFXITsukasa]

YAY I know how to Magic Burst properlly. Before I just cast to see if it would Magic Burst now I know how it works. Im gonna go try tomorrow with my friend. This will haul. He has Slice what should I use after that, is it a Dark element? If so I use Stone, Stonega, or Bio right?