BLM/WHM as main healer

[Talindra]

Every other party I join expects me to be a main healer, and I'm sick of it. Last night I was in a party in Yuhtunga where the other blm/whm and I were healing instead of nuking. The two of us could barlely keep up with the damage the monsters were doing. Half of us in the party would have to use our 2hr ability if a goblin were pulled. I stated that I would leave if another were pulled since we nearly died. I stuck around for mandragoras that were giving 200 exp each, yet we'd have to rest extensively between pulls. I left after we killed the next goblin on which all the party's 2hrs were spent including the ninja's, our leader was dead, and both us blm were out of mp from healing. 4 melee and 2 blm healers does not make a good party. Normally 2 blm can shorten fights significantly, but not when we're frantically casting cure and cure II.

I'm tired of using Manafont on cures. I'm tired of being a main healer when I'd be more useful nuking and acting as a backup healer. Is there a subjob I can use other than rdm or whm before I can get an advanced job? Would rdm sub be better than a whm sub in this situation? Or should I just stick to whm for the level and 750 exp I have left til 30. A friend of mine suggested that I tell each party I join that I refuse to be a main healer, and that they need to find one or I'll join another party.

[Fippish]

Yea, do that.. tell them you're not main healer, or sub RDM.. noone has once asked me to be main healer.

[Treth]

I think that the people who are asking you to heal need to realize that black mages aren't healers. You say you want to do back up healing, and that's what you should do considering you subbed white mage. If you enjoy being a blm/whm, keep with it. No matter what you sub, someone will eventually come up to you and ask you to play your sub like it was your main. In your position, I'd rather solo or find another party.

[zorca]

Well, there're times where u simply won't find a whm or rdm available unless u got some good connections

Anyway, it won't happen soon enough I tell ya - because at higher level it just won't work

[jaby]

I've had that before. PEOPLE, my job is to nuke. Not to cure you.

This is just like that thread where the RDM refuses to heal, and "attempt" to melee.

[Talindra]

It already didn't work when I was 18blm/9whm. Trying to keep an 18-20 party alive with nothing but cure is harrowing. At my current lvl, cure II just doesn't cut it sometimes.

[jaby]

Heh, today was awesome. I was a BLM15/WHM07.
I denied all invites till they had a WHM in their party.
In the end, I found a party that had 2 WHM, and I joined ^^

[Typhoon]

This is where you go anonymous and spam shout that you are lfg as a blm

[Taga]

A party with me as a main healer is better than no party at all.

*shrug*

[VB-Shiva]

I'm sick of BLM/WHM and RDM refusing to heal. Get out of that one-tracked mind. You have that flexibility, USE IT! You do whatever it takes to make your GROUP the best it can be.

[Jaggywaggy]

I don't think these BLMs/WM and RDMs are angry about having to heal. But really it's just they hate healing full time and I can't blame them. If they wanted to cure 100% of the time, they would've went WM. By the choice of job like RDM or BLM/WM they must've planned on "2ndary healing". Meaning there is a WM on healing duties and one of the above to sometimes chip in and help.

But you can't completely blame these party leaders either. Really the WM job has too much value compared to other jobs. BLM is replacable with other damage dealers for example. But the WM is always needed. In my opinion, this is all the result of an imbalance. Never have I seen Healers so despretely required in MMO before, I've played few MMO on the other hand.

Edit: Forgot to mention, 2ndary healers wouldn't be used as primary healers if there wasn't such a low count in WMs on certain servers.

[Coinspinner]

If the only other healer gets disconnected or isn't healing for some reason I stop nuking and start healing. If the tank dies, chances are I'm next. I've only once been asked to be main healer, which was at level 22 when I was still BLM/RDM and didn't have Cure 2. After one fight like that the part disbanded. After that I immediatly leveld WHM to have Cure 2, but it hasn't come up again since then.

My friend absolutely hates healing so he leveled summoner to 25 as SMN/BLM (with only Carbuncle, how the hell did he get any parties?). Now he's BLM/SMN, and still gets constant invites. There's some hope for those that hate healing and love nuking.

[Talindra]

Shiva, I'm not angry about being a secondary healer, that's fine. I'm angry about people wanting me to be a main healer because my heals just aren't as effective as RDM or WHM. At my level, they have Cure III for backup. I don't :p . They have Curaga. I don't. I not effective as a main healer with only Cure and Cure II. When all the party members have used their 2hr, and some still die, I think that's reason enough not to use BLM/WHM as main healers. There were even 2 of us BLM/WHM and we could NOT keep up with the damage the monsters were dealing. If you want a BLM/WHM as a main healer, it's your funeral, not mine. That simply is not making the class the best it can be, in my opinion.

[riceburner4540]

blm/whm aren't meant to be main healers, true....but they can be if you play it right. of course, this depends on the other members of the party as well, they have to play it smart. a group i partied with a couple of times couldn't find a whm or rdm, so they asked me. i was 37/18 blm/whm at that time and we did fine chaining workers in crawlers' nest...when a whm asked to join, i offered to leave but probably out of politeness, they insisted i stayed . but anyway, we had no deaths, hardly any near-deaths and leveled fairly quickly, gaining about 2k exp/hour. its been a while but i think our party went something like this...

blm/whm hume (me)
pal/war elvaan
thf/war elvaan
thf/nin hume
blm/smn hume
drk/whm taru

at the very end though, for the final pull, they wanted a doom scorpion...death scissor took a nice 500 damage chunk off of our pally...it did that a couple times and w/ an AE attack here and there, we were pretty much screwed ^_^. we ended up that day with 1 death (the pally's).

[aszid]

well.. i've gotten to lvl 20 blm/whm.

i have only be asked to be the main healer once, and it really didn't work. Cure1 is just plain not enough, i could be doing more than twice as much damage, as the hp i'm healing. if i nuke, the enemy dies alot faster, if i heal, i spend just as much MP, and the battle lasts twice as long. it's really a no-brainer at my level, it may be a little bit different when i get cure2 as a blm, but my healing skill will still suck, and that's a fact.

i don't mind being a backup healer, topping people off after a fight, or even helping during a fight if we're in a pinch. I'm all for effective use of mp, and a blm healing when the party if fighting is not effective use of mp.

I've had many compliments on my nuking, and i have been in parties before where i did as much or more damage as the rest of the party combined. now, what's better killing 2x as fast, or spamming cure1 to attempt to keep your party members alive?

pretty much every party i've ever joined that didn't have a rdm or a whm has gone straight down the crapper. either they disband or they die, then disband.