Song Stacking

[Fawn]

I did a quick search for "Elegy" and "Slow." The results didnt seem to answer my question so Ill ask. I apologize if it has already been answered somewhere.

Does Elegy stack with the WHM spell "Slow"? and if not, which will overwrite the other?

Same goes for sleep. If I lull a monster and a BLM with Elemental Seal + Sleep does the same.. who's sleep wins out?

Thanks for your time.

[frogurtx]

For a long time till level 71, my elegy would always overwrite a mage's Slow spell. If Slow was cast after my elegy was in place, it would have no effect. But just recently, I've had Rdm in my party overwrite my elegy with her slow, and I could overwrite her's.

I don't really know what to make of this, but I believe our elegy in general is stronger than the Slow spell. Does pretty much the same thing though. I havn't noticed a difference between the two effects.

As far as sleep goes, our Lullaby and Sleep may stack. I know for a fact that if Sleep is cast over a monster under Lullaby, it will override the Lullaby, and increase the sleep duration to if not over the duration of the Sleep spell cast. But I don't know if this works vice versa.

[mIze]

I have never seen Slow have no effect when Elegy was on, or vice versa.

Also, Lullaby and Sleep (ONE) spell are the same thing as far as the game is concerned. If you Lullaby after a monster is slept w/ a spell, it will have no effect. If someone uses SLEEP ONE (not two) when a mob is lullaby'd, it will have no effect.

Sleep II however overwrites anything but Sleep II. It is a higher level magic and the duration is much longer. It overwrites Sleep, Sleepga, and Lullabies.

I have many a time casted Lullaby and had a rdm cast Sleep II afterwards and it sticks, which is very noticable b/c the mob doesn't wake for a long time.

[Peltar]

I never noticed slow and elegy not stacking, either. As for sleep, it's also useful to note that rdm/blm can't sleep undead, while brd can.. Other than that, sleep II is always better than lullaby. (But I often lullaby adds just to give the rdm some time or if they are resisted)

[Setheron]

I as well, Id cast Elegy some times after the whm has cast Slow and the Elegy wouldnt be resisted.

[Bishop]

Hmmr. I actually tested casting both slow and elegy on a monster and I've noticed significant decrease in speed. It leads me to believe that they stack.

[AurorABLaZe]

They do stack. Never seen them overwrite or "have no effect."

I'm quite certain they stack. If they don't, then I guess my WHM's never been casting Slow......


XD

[frogurtx]

Hmm tested this earlier, and I havn't gotten a No Effect message on the slow magic. I swear it did this before though.... could just be my imagination. Point is, that it doesnt do it now.

[mIze]

Aye, spell sleeps don't affect undead... but as to whether it's a general rule of the game or that their resistance is too high I don't know.

I guess what I'm saying is, if a 70 rdm casted Sleep II on a Wight, would it work b/c of the vast level difference, or not at ALL because undead are not slept by magic? I had always thought the latter.

[frogurtx]

Well its not that they can't be slept by a spell. It's just highly unlikely because they have such high dark magic resistance, and Sleep is dark based. It is possible to sleep a bone a few levels below you, but you need elemental seal.

However Lullaby is a different story. Since it's light based, you have a very good chance of sleeping the undead.

[Lythe]

Does Requiem stack with Dia/Bio/Poison?

Edit: Maybe we can test these things 100% when that pvp arena thing comes out.

[Vilurum]

Requiem, Poison, and Dia-or-Bio (can't have both) all stack.