Chr

[ZQM]

I appologize if this has been driven into the ground over and over again, however "chr" is too short for the search button and I don't want to go over 317 threads in hopes to find an answer.

Does CHR do anything to buff spells (Paeon, Minne, ect), or only debuffs/attacks (Threnody, Lullaby, ect)?

And if so, does 2 CHR = ??? like 2 VIT = 1 DEF? (I.E. 2 CHR = 1 DEF on Minne)

Thanks.

[PetriW]

Cha lowers resist rates on songs. However, it seems to be nowhere near 2cha = +1 skill. Talked with Rekiem in game about it and he said he though it was more like 8cha = +1 skill, something I kind of agree with from experience.

I haven't actually tested if there's a difference between no cha gear and full cha gear (I can get +30) on most BUFF songs in a while but back in my low levels there was no difference. I think I'll actually go test that when I'm done browsing FFXIO. (buff = minuet, minne, paeon, etc)

Just a point, having +1 and +2 instruments is far more important than having cha imho. They extend both duration and stat improvment on songs. I currently carry around ~8 instruments (like I remember) and my soul screams in pain every time I see a na bard with no +mp items and sandorian horn as main instrument.
(If someone checked me I don't expect people to have gear like me but at least they should have the items that cost 5-10k.)

[Neplak]

Chr dosnt effect buff songs at all, these are only effected by the instrument you use and the skill you have in that type of instrument.

Chr makes it so there is a smaller risk of your offensive songs to be resisted IE. Requiem, Lullaby, Elegy, Threnodys and Finale

[Bamce Sylph]

i havn't seen it, but i thought finale was unresistable?
or is it like dispell where it is only resistable by mobs we abnormally high dark resist (i belive dispell is dark)

[Neplak]

Finale is resistable, it dosnt happen often thou i think it has happend 2 times for me in total. Goes on light resistance if I dont remember it wrong.

[ZQM]

The stickied FAQ got me confused because he stated that it raises the effincey of songs, so I didn't know what he meant by that. Thanks for clarifying

[SyNapSe]

Wow, I had no clue Finale was resistable. I'm positive mine has never been resisted. It must have like a 99.9999999999% chance of landing.

I wonder why they would make it that way.

I normally EXP at +16 CHR with a ton of +MP items on and I rarely have issues with resists anymore.

[Neplak]

This is taken from the July 17 2003 patchmessage:
The value of a monster's light elemental resistance will now reflect on its ability to resist the bard song "Magic Finale."

I had never seen a resist either on earlier levels its now after 60 ive seen it while fighting Processionaire's in The Boyada Tree, they seem to have quite high light resistance since they resist sleep quite often also even thou i have +38chr

[Outaru]

Originally posted by PetriW
Cha lowers resist rates on songs. However, it seems to be nowhere near 2cha = +1 skill. Talked with Rekiem in game about it and he said he though it was more like 8cha = +1 skill, something I kind of agree with from experience.

I haven't actually tested if there's a difference between no cha gear and full cha gear (I can get +30) on most BUFF songs in a while but back in my low levels there was no difference. I think I'll actually go test that when I'm done browsing FFXIO. (buff = minuet, minne, paeon, etc)

Just a point, having +1 and +2 instruments is far more important than having cha imho. They extend both duration and stat improvment on songs. I currently carry around ~8 instruments (like I remember) and my soul screams in pain every time I see a na bard with no +mp items and sandorian horn as main instrument.
(If someone checked me I don't expect people to have gear like me but at least they should have the items that cost 5-10k.)

So when an instrument has say at +2 effect it is duration and effectivess? I thought it was just duration, think I need to go visit AH, shame on me.

[Neplak]

So when an instrument has say at +2 effect it is duration and effectivess? I thought it was just duration, think I need to go visit AH, shame on me.

Yeap it increases both how long the song lasts and how much it boosts the stats and they are for sure worth it according to me atleast.

[PetriW]

I also wonder if they don't help with resist rates too.
I noticed I had forgotten to buy an elegy instrument so I bought one and the amount of resists went down bigtime, I haven't tried it enough to be certain though but so far I'm super happy with the purchase.

[Sylvanis]

they seem to have quite high light resistance since they resist sleep quite often

hmmmm, i'm pretty sure that sleep is a dark element song.

so does stuff like singing, string, and wind skill boost our songs? i sure hope so but i haven't really noticed any difference in my songs yet. i guess the best way to find out is to bust out the paeon songs. paeon 3/4 has yet to go up though

[PetriW]

Paeon and Ballad won't improve with skill.
However, minuet etc will. Just try first singing minuet, then playing minuet with a random wind instrument and finally play minuet with a stringed instrument (I doubt you have it maxed).

Of the three you should get the highest attack boost from wind instrument.

Skill also affects resist rates, this is why horde lullaby with a harp can be dangerous unless you have it maxed.

And yes, lullaby should be a dark element song as implied by the black song note next to the song name.