/p comments in song macros?

[Beaginator]

Before about level 25, my macros would have an equipment switch and a /p comment with the name of the song (auto-translated) and the effect of the song, like this:

/equip range "Cornette +1"
/ma "Valor Minuet II" <me>
/p (| Minuet |) II (Increased Attack)

But then I realized that if I got rid of the /p comments, I could fit two songs into one macro, like this:

/equip range "Cornette +1"
/ma "Valor Minuet II" <me>
/wait 12
/equip range "Transviere +1"
/ma "Sword Madrigal" <me>

That allowed me to just hit 1 macro and use both melee or mage songs.

Which method do you prefer? Are the /p comments actually useful, or is it just annoying spam?

[Xelios]

Well it's up to you about the /p thing but in my opinion its not really necessary for like madrigal and minuet etc. just for paeon, and prelude for ex /p Hunters Prelude ---> Bob or whatever and also do that for Threnodies so the BLM knows what its weak against. For the 2 song macro I dont think ya should do that cuz usually the melees move like crazy... and you'll miss them. I would only do that for Ballad and Paeon after a battle and maybe for the mages but that's about it. I really just dont do that tho.

[Tres]

I used to have /p comments when I was a Whm, but I stopped using them at around level 20 or so, to save the log from being spammed. I did not even put /p commands in when I became a Brd, and I have not really had anybody ask me to use them. I prefer to have the melee mix (Minuet and Madrigal), on one marco. I usually ask the melee people to try and stay in one place and they seem to do fine. Occasionally I might miss someone, but if that is the case, I debuff until I can recast the song again. Other than the healing mix (Stacked Paeon), I have no other marcos with 2 songs on them. Whichever one you feel you are better at doing, choose that way.

[Sinzer]

I prefer /p comments as it allows me to see who is healing who, I also add in my current HP to the comments.

I have most of the effects filtered out to save on the spam.

[Krumble]

Past a certain level, I guess people just stopped using /p in their macros except for provoke and weaponskills.

Also, don't be lazy with the 2 songs on one macro thing. If your melees gain full TP at the start of your macro, and the beetle/crab/pugil/bird boosts its defense or evasion in the next second, they have to wait 20 seconds to perform their skillchain.

[xarddrax]

/p comments suck.....chat logs are bad enough with useless spam...
the only ones i use are for Sleep and Dispel songs so no one attacks a slept beast and RDMs dont waste a dispel on a beast i already Dispel'd.
I use to stack both songs in one macro but found that when you do that it become more of a hassel. If you want to do something other than the second song (like heal someone) you have to wait for the 2nd songs animation to stop.
Youll also find you dont use many of the songs....this is my Song Macro setup:

Sleep
AOE Sleep
Dispel
Slow
Ballad
Haste
Attack Up
Accuracy Up
Paeon #
Paeon #


I just change the macro each time i get a better Paeon or Attack Up.
My alt Macro set i change depending on situation...i usually have +CHR and +INT macro'd and a "Carol" or two for the area (like "Water Carol" if fighting pugs or crabs) we are hunting in. You can also put your mages spell on the alt macro board (assuming of course you sub a mage).

[Rekiem]

Yes, I really hate /p comment from magic users, its anoying and create too much spam for nothing.

[Aniga]

Unless it's a song that people NEED to know you're using (I.E. Lullaby so they don't hit the adds) then it's all just useless spam, and may your group-mates flay you alive if you continue to use them

[Sylvanis]

yeah, i find it incredibly annoying. the only thing i have /p is for sleep. and that is only for lullaby and not the horde one.

[Bamce Sylph]

i personally have messages for sleep b/c waking sleeping mobs is bad, and i've been thinking of making a /p for curaga, so they know its coming and don't really move around. other than that i hate seeing long /p hotkeys its far to much spam. debuffs, and cures should be the onlything with /p as far as i'm concerned, but the debuff key can be ignored if the mages co-operate and split duties

[Foamingpanda]

I only use /p comments for dispelling and sleeping mobs. Those two paticular line of songs are extremely important. Knowing if a mob's defenses are dispelled (IE robber crabs) helps melee get the most damage out of WS. As previously stated, a sleep macro helps tell the party to not attack the monster you're sleeping. No other songs required /p comments (unless you want to spam your PT).

**Be lazy with double macros. No one will notice the difference, and it'll make your job 90% easier (A good bard can play an emergency song during the /wait between the songs anyway).

[Leri]

Heh I have /p comments on more then just sleep and dispel. The other I find useful to have a comment in is ballad if you doing the hit PLD and mages only with ballad trick. Because it tells the THF that.. this is not a good time to fuidama dammit! >.<

*grumbles about one particular thief with the most horrid timing shes ever seen*

[xarddrax]

Originally posted by Leri
...The other I find useful to have a comment in is ballad if you doing the hit PLD and mages only with ballad trick. Because it tells the THF that.. this is not a good time to fuidama dammit! >.<

What are you talking about? That makes no sence. Why would Ballad interfere with a THFs attack unless the PLD is running towards Ballad during a battle....which he shouldnt be doing.

[Leri]

It makes perfect sense. By fuidama I mean Sneak Attack + Trick Attack + Viper Bite usually.

To do this they have to be BEHIND the PLD. Which means they have to run into the Ballad's range. Effectivly screwing the song I sung for them eariler in the battle.

When you get good with range you can place yourself like so:



To hit only the mages and paladin with Ballad. You are using the distance the monster gives between the pally and the other melees. If the thief runs behind the pld while you doing this. Well. Then they now have ballad which doesn't help them at all.

[xarddrax]

Oh, im sorry didnt realize you were under the impression that a THF has to Sneak/Trick/viper off a PLD....well thats incredibly wrong and extreamly hard to do if you have a good PLD.
My Main may be a BRD, but i also Main a THF and i have never succussfully pulled a fuidama off on a PLD cuz ones i play with alway have aggro ON them like they should. I play with compitent people and if a PLD cant keep aggro on him, then he gets replaced or i leave. A sneak attack is usless when done from behind a PLD. Usually the few seconds a beast isnt aggrod on a PLD he knows to use flash, Cure,Provoke, or another skill to get it back on him which will scrwe up your sneak....tricking off a PLD is fine to control hate. But, Fuidama off a PLD is a pain in the ass. Best people i have found to do it off are DRGs so you can SC with Raiden Thrust (Distortion) .... DRG uses Raiden...PLD provokes while you ramp up Sneak/Trick, then you use Viper....game, set, match.